Strange day on the ladder test

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by srhaggerty, Feb 25, 2006.

  1. srhaggerty

    srhaggerty Well-Known Member

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    Well today I was finally able to complete both my ladder tests for my APS 25-284. I am new at this so I am not quite sure how to read the data. Both tests are way different. So here is my first test: 75 gr V-max, APS 25-284, RL-19, CCI 200.
    [image]www.hunt101.com/showphoto.php?photo=381092[/image]
    1. 54.3 3452
    2. 54.6 3397
    3. 54.9 3461
    4. 55.2 3482
    5. 55.5 3524
    6. 55.8 3518
    7. 56.1 3531
    8. 56.4 3561
    9. 56.7 3600
    10. 57.0 3686
    11. 57.3 3617
    12. 57.6 3684
    13. 57.9 3698
    14. 58.2 3714
    15. 58.5 3761
    16. 58.8 3761
    17. 59.1 3782
    18. 59.4 3819
    19. 59.7 3832
    20. 60.0 3824

    125 gr ULD RBBT, APS 25-284, RL-22, CCI 200.
    [image]www.hunt101.com/showphoto.php?photo=381092[/image]
    1. 47.3 2921
    2. 47.6 2885
    3. 47.9 2961
    4. 48.2 2928
    5. 48.5 2953
    6. 48.8 2951
    7. 49.1 2966
    8. 49.4 2979
    9. 49.7 3064
    10. 50.0 3028
    11. 50.3 3071
    12. 50.6 3078
    13. 50.9 3082
    14. 51.2 3099 Primer signs
    15. 51.5 3120 Pulled
    16. 51.8 3100
    17. 52.1 3071
    18. 52.4 3148
    19. 52.7 3203
    20. 53.0 3215

    From the pictures you can see how different the groups are. Nevermind I got them.
    Sean
     
  2. srhaggerty

    srhaggerty Well-Known Member

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    Well I guess I didn't get them to work.
     

  3. royinidaho

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    aa

    Use the URL first then click on continue to review your post.

    The URL will be red or some color. In the continue screen, where you can review your post, click on the link.

    Now, you will see your image and its own url ending in .jpg.

    Highlite all of it and copy (control V).

    Go back down to the window where you are writing your post and delete all of the url stuff.

    Then click on IMAGE in the RBB Code and copy (control c) into the little window that opents.

    Then click continue and you image should open in your review window. If it does click SUBMIT.

    Its a bit of a pain but its the only way I can get it to work.

    BTW, I'm typing this w/o my glasses, I haven't seen a word that I said......

    HTH
     
  4. Jimm

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    Do it again Hag man ,

    We gots to know what the tests look like ! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
     
  5. ss7mm

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    Sean:

    In your post above you had the same picture for both tests. Below is the picture until you can get it working on your end and get both to show up. As you can see, this one appears to be the one for the 125 gr. ULD RBBT

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    I think this might be the one for the 75 grain load.
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  6. Jimm

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    Dang Hag man !

    I'm already blind , now I'm going crosseyed /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Too many blinking lines in the way /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Really , a closer pic would help as its hard to track shot progression . ( thats probably just me , cuz I have such bad eyes /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif )
     
  7. royinidaho

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    RE:75 gr bullet and RL-19

    It looks like Shots 15 & 16 define a "spot"
    Also 19 & 20

    These two sets of loads had the least velocity difference.

    For this cartridge I'd recommend powder changes at 0.1 grains. You may well be skipping over a node. My personal observation is that the amount of powder has more to do with nodes etc, than velocities. Just my own tho't here....

    If you want to do it again, use a max of 60grains and go down in 0.1 increments. That will cover both of the above mentioned "spots".

    RE: the 125 gr and RL-22:

    I'd suggest using a black sharpie to label the shots. I can't read most of the labels.

    Again I'd suggest 0.1 grain increments using the same max load.

    There are 3 shots pretty much together at the upper right hand corner of the larger red square. Can't see the labels thus don't know if they mean anything.

    Thanks for posting the data, also ss7mm. Its good experience to see the different ways things turn out.
     
  8. green 788

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    Reading these should be easier...

    [​IMG]Tea Leaves... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

    Do yourself a favor and please give OCW a try. I think you'll like it... www.clik.to/optimalchargeweight /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

    Dan
     
  9. royinidaho

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    [ QUOTE ]
    Reading these should be easier...

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    That was blunt /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

    As soon as I get my bbl'd action back and restocked I'll be doing another OCW and Ladder test (I just like to shoot).

    Somebody otta host a seminar on either or both of these methods as communication via the 'puter sure seems to be tough.

    It's kind of like being taught to fish in a swimming pool with no fish in it.

    I coud make a range available /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
  10. abinok

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    im guessing that the bullet holes are marked with charge weight? I notice a few there with 3 numbers... guessing there is a decimal hiding in there somewhere?
    As has been mentioned, they are very hard to read.

    My initial impression was... yep... pretty typical. heavy bullets tend to show more vertical than lighter bullets. If you can get a bigger picture posted, or maybe remark them so they are easier to read I think you will have plenty of help in a hurry. No crystal balls or tea leaves needed.

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    I coud make a range available

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    Mine is always open if anybody is coming through. As long as a shooter knows the 3 rules of gun saftey (and can follow them), LRH members are welcome at my place anytime.
     
  11. srhaggerty

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    Let me sharpie them and some one could post them for me. Thanks.
     
  12. srhaggerty

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    75 grain V-max
    [image]http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.php?photo=381262[/image]
     
  13. srhaggerty

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    125 ULD RBBT Sorry for the poor hand writting.
    [image]http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.php?photo=381264[/image]
     
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