Straighter reloads for $19

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by AJ Peacock, Dec 22, 2007.

  1. AJ Peacock

    AJ Peacock Well-Known Member

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    When I work up a load, I've got to drive 10 miles each way to test it out. It normally took me several trips to get the seating depth correct. I would load 5 rounds each at .001" seating depth drive to the range, setup and test. When I found a depth that worked well, I would invariably have ammo that needed to be reseated or pulled to make the seating depth correct. It was a pain, because I'd shoot 5 that seemed correct and I'd have to go back home to duplicate them and validate the depth.

    I was recently looking around on Midway's site and found the following hand press MidwayUSA - Lee Hand Press

    I decided I'd order one, then I could reload my ammo .030" too long and just seat them at the range to whatever seating depth I wanted to test. I figured with the price of diesel ($4/gallon) it wouldn't take long to save the $19 for the little hand press.

    Well, I decided to load up some ammo to test the 200 Accubonds in my 300WSM. I decided to give this little press a full fledged test and use it for the entire reloading process. I resized and seated 20 cartridges and then measured them on my Sinclair concentricity gauge. I was surprised to find 5 of the 20 rounds were absolutley perfect, the needle didn't even move on the concentricity gauge! The highest runout was just barely .002" and most of the rounds where around .001" !

    I hurriedly measured 20 rounds I had previously made on my bench press and found only 3 'flatliners', but had several that had more than .004" runout and the rest were around .002".

    It was clear that the little $19 handpress was making straighter ammo than my $200 RCBS press!

    The brass for both batches came out of the same lot and had been fired the same number of times. I used the same dies (Redding type-S full length) and shellholder. I pushed the shoulder back the same amount on both tests; between .001" and .0015" (measured with a stoney point and my Starrett calipers). Bullets for both batches were out of the same box.

    Just thought I would share this info with you all.

    AJ

    ps: the handpress is normally $21 but is currently on sale for $19
     
  2. Tyler Kemp

    Tyler Kemp SPONSOR

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    How tough is resizing and stuff? As soon as I get the damages to the Suburban payed off I would like something to reload some rounds with at the range.
     

  3. Winchester 69

    Winchester 69 Well-Known Member

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    I would guess that you are having thoughts about the RCBS press.
     
  4. AJ Peacock

    AJ Peacock Well-Known Member

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    It has good leverage and good feel. It has a lot of leverage right at the top of the stroke, where you are doing your resizing.

    AJ
     
  5. AJ Peacock

    AJ Peacock Well-Known Member

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    Not really. The press I was talking about is the big AmmoMaster 2 that I use for my 338AM and it does a good job and has a HUGE window for the big guy. I'm sure the runout I saw on those rounds were a combination of the long throw on the press and my 'carefullness'. I've made very good rounds on that press in the past, I think its just too big of a press for such a short (WSM ) round, any small amount of out of square (none of them are perfect) or 'looseness' shows up at the very top of the stroke (just when the WSM is feeding into the dies). After all, in comparison to a lot of reloads I've measured (from other folks) .002" average isn't all that bad, I was just completely impressed with the rounds I made with the little hand press.

    AJ
     
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  6. Varmint Hunter

    Varmint Hunter Well-Known Member

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    "When I work up a load, I've got to drive 10 miles each way to test it out. "

    Consider yourself lucky. The closest range to me is 50mi each way and they charge $15.00 each time you go there.

    Shooting on L.I. is inconvenient & expensive. Many local shops have gone under.
     
  7. jmden

    jmden Well-Known Member

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    That seems like a great tip and cheap to boot. Have to try that out!
     
  8. redbone

    redbone Well-Known Member

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    Aj

    I would set up an on an small reloading bench an take it with me .

    I have two press set up one on the bench in my shop .
    the other one on an 1 by 6 by 3 foot long .
    This one I bring in the house an C clamp it to an table .
    could you C clamp an Press to some thing at your shooting range .

    I have an shooting bench set up In my shop .
    I can shoot 100 Yards 150 Yards .

    Redbone
     
  9. AJ Peacock

    AJ Peacock Well-Known Member

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    I've thought about that, but with this press, it will just go write in my shooting bag with the ammo and the calipers. No C-clamp to carry etc. Really handy and easier to use than a bench press for reseating, as you can do it standing or sitting (no bending over a shooting bench etc.)

    AJ
     
  10. johnnyk

    johnnyk Well-Known Member

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    AJ,
    Thanks for the info. I'm kinda in the same situation only I drive about 15-20mi one way. Don't mind the drive it just takes so long to do load development. I have a Lee press that I was gonna rig up to take with me, but I am going to look into the one you mentioned. JohnnyK.
     
  11. chino034

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    A.J. did you have to adjust your dies any to get the same sizing and seating depth on the hand press as your bench press. I have been looking hard at these presses too. Thanks
     
  12. AJ Peacock

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    Yes, I had to back them off about .20" or so, I think I am going to make a shim and have a buddy surface grind it to the exact thickness, then my dies won't need readjusted. If you only load for one caliber, you could just get a second seating die.

    Every press I have is a little different in that perspective.

    AJ
     
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  13. chino034

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    What tpye sizing die do you use. I use a Forester BR . did you get that runout with standard or BR type seater
     
  14. AJ Peacock

    AJ Peacock Well-Known Member

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    Redding competition seater.

    AJ