Stevens V. S. Savage & long V. S. action?

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by Alfred Crouch, Jul 18, 2010.

  1. Alfred Crouch

    Alfred Crouch Well-Known Member

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    I want to end up with some versin of a 22-250 ....... 22-250, 22-250 AI or 220 swift. I want a 1 to 8 twist which no factory rifle comes with. I want to order a rifle and change barrels to get the twist I want. I can put another trigger &/or stock on it as well if needed .... so should I:
    1) Get a Savage long action and put a barrel like I want on it in the caliber of
    choice..
    2) Get a Stevens long action and put a barrel like I want on it in the caliber of
    choice.
    3) Get one of the above in a short action and put a barrel like I want on it in
    the caliber of choice.

    I was thinking the long action would allow loading the bullets out to the lands whereas the short action may not. Is this correct?
    Is the action used on the Stevens and the Savage the same (quality of materials and design) with differences being whether it has the accu stock and accu trigger or not? If so it seems I would do just as well to start with the Stevens. Thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    The main difference between Savage and Stevens will be the trigger and stock. I really like the Savage Accutrigger so I would go with a Savage short action, the bolt is better on the Savage also. But if you looking for a deal you could pick up a Stevens for a song and put a trigger on it and swap the bolt handle out cheap.

    The Savage short action is fairly long, I can seat my 270 WSM out just under 3in OAL so a 22-250 has a lot of room in it.
     

  3. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    I would start with a Savage in a short action (The long action is not nessary) Because there are lots of aftermarket items for it.

    If you are into wildcats and reloading go with the 22-250 AI, The 223 WSSM is also another
    choice that is not a wild cat and larger factory bullets work well in it with the 1 in 8 twist you
    want. The 223 WSSM requires a magnum bolt face and work best in a center feed mag box.

    You can get a pre chambered barrel from Shilen or a couple of other barrel makers in the twist
    rate you want and all you need to install it is a barrel nut wench and a head space gauge.

    These barrels are fully chambered and ready to install.

    The Savages are the way to go If you don't want to fool with a Gunsmith or don't have one available or close by.

    I hope this helps you. It's just my opinion for what it's worth.

    J E CUSTOM
     
  4. Fitch

    Fitch Well-Known Member

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    The Savage short action is about the perfect choice for a bunch of reasons. It is long enough to seat any bullet you want in a .22-250 out far enough to touch the lands in a reasonably throated barrel. The Accutrigger works well enough that I've never felt the urge to replace one on a hunting rifle. The floating bolt head essemtially eliminates the need to do any receiver truing for other than anal benchrest types who can't sleep unless they do it. It is dirt simple to change barrels on a Savage and you can buy barrels and bolt faces in a mindblowing range of cartridges including some wildcats from Shilen and others.

    It can be about anything you want it to be that fits in a short action.

    That said, if you are looking for a short action heavy varmint rifle you can also buy the Savage LRPV, BVSS, and Varmint Lo-Profile as repeaters in .22-250 and if you get one that doesn't "shoot" you will have the only one I've heard of. And they can all be used with multiple barrels as well.

    Fitch
     
  5. hammertyme

    hammertyme Well-Known Member

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    If you like or can learn to like the Accu-trigger then the Savage is the way to go. If you want to invest a couple hundred less and wish to replace the Accutrigger with in my opinion is the best after market match trigger from Sharp Shooter Supply.

    Stevens is definitely the way I go if I am building a rifle from scratch. Benchmark,Shilon or a number of other barrel makers make pre-everything Savage barrels ready to thread on. Nothing special including gunsmith needed other than a go gauge, barrel vise and nut wrench.

    Neal
     
  6. topbrass

    topbrass Well-Known Member

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    Does Benchmark have a web site?
     
  7. hammertyme

    hammertyme Well-Known Member

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    NO website: They do have 50 some world records so quality is job one!

    Neal

    Benchmark Barrels
    Ron Sinnema, Barry Graber
    1105 Pioneer Hwy East
    Arlington, WA 98223
    phone: (360) 652-2594
    email: benchmarkbarrels [at] yahoo.com
     
  8. Nape.270

    Nape.270 Well-Known Member

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  9. nockhunter

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    If you want to save even more cash, buy a Savage 22-250, sell the barrel, buy a fast twist 223 barrel and ream it to 22-250.

    Mike
     
  10. geargrinder

    geargrinder Well-Known Member

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    Get a long action. It's easier to find stocks, firing pins, boltheads. Sooner or later you'll want to screw on a magnum barrel and you'll have to wade through all the information to find the correct group of parts to work.

    Long actions are all the same, new and old. Everything fits and works together.

    My long action started as a 308 and is now a 338 Edge with a 32" barrel.

    I have another action that started as a 7mmRM and is now a 308 with a 20" barrel and detachable mag. Just waiting for antelope season.

    The third is wearing a 28" 7mmWSM with a 8" twist barrel. It was built specifically for the long 180g VLD's. No way it would work as a repeater in a short action.

    The long actions are just more versatile.