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SST and Balistic Tips on deer. A good choice?
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<blockquote data-quote="edge" data-source="post: 455483" data-attributes="member: 5030"><p>A few years ago I used the 30 caliber 150 grain SST in my custom muzzleloader. I said in the story that it was an 8mm bullet but it was the 30 cal. SST as can be seen in the recovered jacket.</p><p>Some of the story does not apply since that forum had been discussing the new, at that time TMZ ml bullet.</p><p>Here was my account of the hunt:</p><p></p><p>CLOSE RANGE IMPACTS.....</p><p></p><p>One problem that all bullets encounter is the optimum impact velocity. </p><p>Can a bullet work at 3,000 fps and at 1000 fps? I can't answer that, but I think that the TMZ may be able to. I like it because it has a massive hollow point, sans the plastic tip, and the good BC.</p><p>The problem is I don't currently shoot them ;D</p><p></p><p>Today I did test another bullet at close range.. Yes, it was longer then my last kill, but not by a real lot <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>I sat this morning and saw only does, legal for ML but not what I was after. After several unsuccessful drives, my friend and hunting partner decide to go to a small patch that seemed like a waste of time. 35 acres of 95% open space. 1/2 of it was mowed to about 3 inches and other than a couple of hedgerows the balance was floodplain that was not much more than a foot high with some briar's.</p><p></p><p>I did a half hearted push for my friend and was 90% done when a small buck jumped up in front of my friend, but out of his shotgun range. The terrain was downhill from my friend to a small creek and then a very steep slope. This would work to my favor since the deer got to the creek and while it could easily go up the slope, the logical route would be left or right. It turned toward me as I dropped to a knee behind some tall grass and briar's to look it over and in anticipation for a shot. The deer appeared to be headed straight for me and about 50 yards away. For some reason my friend decide to yell BUCK, as if I did not see it ;D , and at the the buck stops to look back at him. Drive over, the deer is ready to bolt so I shot even though I had to shoot through cover. </p><p>At the shot, the buck jumps, crosses the creek and runs up the hill with no sign of slowing. To make matters worse my friend fires a shot of buckshot...and he was at least 100 yards away! I hear another two shot from my friend after my deer has out of sight so I walked over to see what he was doing.</p><p>It turns out that two bucks jumped up after I shot, and they were within yards of my friend but he was watching me and was taken by surprise and missed two MASSIVE bucks that were hiding like rabbits in grass that you would not even think to push!</p><p></p><p>Back to the title.</p><p></p><p>The deer I shot was headed toward me but his head was turned 90 degrees to his left. The 8mm 150 grain bullet hit just left of his right leg which was a little far back at very close to 3000 fps.</p><p>The bullet centered a rib, continued through one lung, liver, stomach, intestines, and exited through the ham. Actually the jacket was recover inside the hide next to the ham but the core exited.</p><p>I think that I may switch to the Accubond for next year even though this was pretty good performance. More than 20 inches of straight line penetration and still an exit..</p><p></p><p>edge.</p><p></p><p>Jacket:</p><p><img src="http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/edgeco2/CIMG0276.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Outside Entrance:</p><p><img src="http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/edgeco2/CIMG0271.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Inside Entrance:</p><p><img src="http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/edgeco2/CIMG0273.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Internal Damage, and exit wound in leg and hide:</p><p><img src="http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/edgeco2/CIMG0267.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>( right is ham, left is hide pulled back, and center bottom is wound channel.</p><p></p><p></p><p>edge.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="edge, post: 455483, member: 5030"] A few years ago I used the 30 caliber 150 grain SST in my custom muzzleloader. I said in the story that it was an 8mm bullet but it was the 30 cal. SST as can be seen in the recovered jacket. Some of the story does not apply since that forum had been discussing the new, at that time TMZ ml bullet. Here was my account of the hunt: CLOSE RANGE IMPACTS..... One problem that all bullets encounter is the optimum impact velocity. Can a bullet work at 3,000 fps and at 1000 fps? I can't answer that, but I think that the TMZ may be able to. I like it because it has a massive hollow point, sans the plastic tip, and the good BC. The problem is I don't currently shoot them ;D Today I did test another bullet at close range.. Yes, it was longer then my last kill, but not by a real lot :( I sat this morning and saw only does, legal for ML but not what I was after. After several unsuccessful drives, my friend and hunting partner decide to go to a small patch that seemed like a waste of time. 35 acres of 95% open space. 1/2 of it was mowed to about 3 inches and other than a couple of hedgerows the balance was floodplain that was not much more than a foot high with some briar's. I did a half hearted push for my friend and was 90% done when a small buck jumped up in front of my friend, but out of his shotgun range. The terrain was downhill from my friend to a small creek and then a very steep slope. This would work to my favor since the deer got to the creek and while it could easily go up the slope, the logical route would be left or right. It turned toward me as I dropped to a knee behind some tall grass and briar's to look it over and in anticipation for a shot. The deer appeared to be headed straight for me and about 50 yards away. For some reason my friend decide to yell BUCK, as if I did not see it ;D , and at the the buck stops to look back at him. Drive over, the deer is ready to bolt so I shot even though I had to shoot through cover. At the shot, the buck jumps, crosses the creek and runs up the hill with no sign of slowing. To make matters worse my friend fires a shot of buckshot...and he was at least 100 yards away! I hear another two shot from my friend after my deer has out of sight so I walked over to see what he was doing. It turns out that two bucks jumped up after I shot, and they were within yards of my friend but he was watching me and was taken by surprise and missed two MASSIVE bucks that were hiding like rabbits in grass that you would not even think to push! Back to the title. The deer I shot was headed toward me but his head was turned 90 degrees to his left. The 8mm 150 grain bullet hit just left of his right leg which was a little far back at very close to 3000 fps. The bullet centered a rib, continued through one lung, liver, stomach, intestines, and exited through the ham. Actually the jacket was recover inside the hide next to the ham but the core exited. I think that I may switch to the Accubond for next year even though this was pretty good performance. More than 20 inches of straight line penetration and still an exit.. edge. Jacket: [img]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/edgeco2/CIMG0276.jpg[/img] Outside Entrance: [img]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/edgeco2/CIMG0271.jpg[/img] Inside Entrance: [img]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/edgeco2/CIMG0273.jpg[/img] Internal Damage, and exit wound in leg and hide: [img]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/edgeco2/CIMG0267.jpg[/img] ( right is ham, left is hide pulled back, and center bottom is wound channel. edge. [/QUOTE]
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