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SPIN DRIFT!....I'm such a dummy
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<blockquote data-quote="RDM416" data-source="post: 552866" data-attributes="member: 3745"><p>Bart, I do not doubt that you have far greater skill and experience at long range shooting than I do. The question I have is why do you discourage compensating for spin drift? Most programs have the feature. It is a simple matter to turn it on and dial for it. Why start off not correcting for something that is going to induce a 6" error at 1000 yards? It seems like saying since we can never judge the wind correctly, why bother to compensate for it?? </p><p></p><p>I have no doubt that I would get smoked at any long range competition, that has never been my gig. I can say (and provide witnesses for most) that I have killed almost 3 dozen big game animals at ranges from 500 to 1000 yards. I missed 1 elk (several times) in a tricky cross canyon wind. ALL others have been one shot kills. </p><p></p><p>Maybe I am just lucky. All those shots verifing my dial up chart, practice sessions in the field working on wind reading skills, all those hours on the bench trying to load the best ammo I can, all those gadgets like my kestrel, ACI, level,......etc. don't do any good. I am just lucky. </p><p></p><p>I am quite sure were I to meet you over a cup of coffee or around a campfire that I would like you. I am very certain you could teach me much about ballistics and long range shooting. What I don't understand is why the competition shooting community seems to have such contempt for the LR hunting community. You BR guys will always shoot better groups. You get benches and rests, wind flags, sighters and fairly level terrain. Us hunters must make a first round lethal hit on a critter that moves a little every time we just get ready to shoot, uneven terrain, typically a canyon with tricky winds. We have a bipod and a beanbag for a rest, are shooting from a rockpile after hustling up a mountain, and somehow (just lucky I guess) still make the shot. </p><p></p><p>Come on out to S NM in a few weeks and you can watch as a buddy and I cow elk hunt. The plan is to shoot one (or two) at around 1000 yards or so. It could be the day my "luck" runs out and you could have a good laugh and tell me what I did wrong.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDM416, post: 552866, member: 3745"] Bart, I do not doubt that you have far greater skill and experience at long range shooting than I do. The question I have is why do you discourage compensating for spin drift? Most programs have the feature. It is a simple matter to turn it on and dial for it. Why start off not correcting for something that is going to induce a 6" error at 1000 yards? It seems like saying since we can never judge the wind correctly, why bother to compensate for it?? I have no doubt that I would get smoked at any long range competition, that has never been my gig. I can say (and provide witnesses for most) that I have killed almost 3 dozen big game animals at ranges from 500 to 1000 yards. I missed 1 elk (several times) in a tricky cross canyon wind. ALL others have been one shot kills. Maybe I am just lucky. All those shots verifing my dial up chart, practice sessions in the field working on wind reading skills, all those hours on the bench trying to load the best ammo I can, all those gadgets like my kestrel, ACI, level,......etc. don't do any good. I am just lucky. I am quite sure were I to meet you over a cup of coffee or around a campfire that I would like you. I am very certain you could teach me much about ballistics and long range shooting. What I don't understand is why the competition shooting community seems to have such contempt for the LR hunting community. You BR guys will always shoot better groups. You get benches and rests, wind flags, sighters and fairly level terrain. Us hunters must make a first round lethal hit on a critter that moves a little every time we just get ready to shoot, uneven terrain, typically a canyon with tricky winds. We have a bipod and a beanbag for a rest, are shooting from a rockpile after hustling up a mountain, and somehow (just lucky I guess) still make the shot. Come on out to S NM in a few weeks and you can watch as a buddy and I cow elk hunt. The plan is to shoot one (or two) at around 1000 yards or so. It could be the day my "luck" runs out and you could have a good laugh and tell me what I did wrong.:D . [/QUOTE]
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