Ok so I went out on a really nice day to get some time behind my LRP. I got it in the fall, and did not get a lot of range time with it over the winter. Working up loads in the fall I got less than good groups with H4350 and 140gr Berger VLDs. I tried different seating depths and charges. I ordered some SMKs 142gr, and set out to the range today. This is the load particulars: 142gr SMK, H4350 powder, Winchester 7mm-08 brass necked down, Federal Match primers. The SMK's all got seated at 3.280 in. The best was the second group then it seemed to open on the third and start to tighten on the fourth. The fourth is max but there were no pressure signs so I am going back tomorrow with 44.7gr and 44.9gr to try them. 1) 41.5gr H4350 Avg 2730 fps 33 ES 14 SD 2) 42.5gr H4350 (Best group) Avg 2775 fps 41 ES 15 SD 3) 43.5gr H4350 Avg 2863 fps 30 ES 11 SD 4) 44.5gr H4350 Avg 2918 fps 26 ES 10 SD Now the questions. Do you clean and foul before each group when working up a load? How many rounds before cleaning when working up a load? How do you know if the load is inaccurate or the barrels needs cleaning? I have about 75 rds through this rifle and I know it is better than I am. I just do not want to waste my time and reloading supplies doing everything wrong.