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Some help with a new Elk rifle please
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<blockquote data-quote="Barrelnut" data-source="post: 1197249" data-attributes="member: 74902"><p>Well I have an old original A-Bolt. Have had it since 1987 and have a soft spot for it. So, I started to stay out of this but......</p><p></p><p>Lots of good ideas here but I will go against the grain and say sell the rifle and buy something else.</p><p></p><p>Reasons: </p><p>* You have somewhat lost faith in it. (Maybe time for a change)</p><p>* It doesn't shoot as well as it used to.</p><p>* You want something with a brake and less muzzle jump.</p><p>* Factory rifles have gotten a LOT more accurate since 1993.</p><p>* Old A-Bolts have trigger issues and if it doesn't already, it will soon start to have a rough gritty pull that cannot be fixed. The trigger will have to be replaced. And I am not sure an A-Bolt II trigger will fit. Have to call Browning on that. Also no matter what, Browning triggers aren't that great and about all you can do to lower the pull weight is with a set of aftermarket Timney trigger springs that get mixed reviews.</p><p>* There are also issue with the Browning action. (No gas ports at the front for a ruptured case. The only thing to stop the gases from hitting your face is the enlarged bolt shroud....</p><p>* The stocks don't bed well because the back screw actually part of the trigger housing and you cannot tighten it down much without affecting the trigger pull.</p><p></p><p>So, I would sell it and get a Savage Bear hunter in 300 Win mag.</p><p></p><p>Reasons: </p><p>* Stay with the 300 Win because you elk hunt.</p><p>* Comeswith an on/off break so you can use it when you want.</p><p>* The Savage Accutrigger is one of, if not the best, factory triggers made and is easily adjustable down to 2.5 lb.</p><p>* Savage rifles are some of the most accurate factory rifles made right now. The rifle will more than likely shoot 1/2 MOA or better right out of the box.</p><p>* The stock is excellent with a full aluminum bedding block that will negate having to have it custom bedded.</p><p>* Has a 23" barrel (21" + 2" break). This is a tad short for true long range work ( 700 yard plus) but you are shooting 100~200 yards. The shorter barrel is lighter, stiffer , and quick handling. This is important since you hike and shoot at game that you jump sometimes.</p><p>* The rifle just looks great with the camo stock and stainless steel action and barrel.</p><p>* The rifle weighs 7.75 LB.</p><p>* Oh, one more thing. The Savage safety is a lot like the Browning safety, which you are no doubt very familiar with now. It is a thumb safety in the same location. The big difference is the Savage safety has "three" positions. The 3rd position allows you to unload the rifle with the safety on. The 2 position Browning safety cannot do that. That's a big plus IMO.</p><p></p><p>Here's a link to the specs: <a href="http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/16BH" target="_blank">Savage Arms</a></p><p></p><p>Sell the Browning for 350 ~ 450. The Savage Bear Hunter for $860 online at BudsGunShop. Now you have a brand new kickass hunting rifle that fits your needs perfectly for around $500 dollars! You will never fix the Browning for that AND you don't have to deal with a smith and scarce barrels and replacement parts.</p><p></p><p>Also, if you want to change barrels in the future, You can change the barrel yourself. No labor fees and waiting for a smith to get around to it.</p><p></p><p>IMO, you cannot go wrong with this route.</p><p></p><p>Good Luck</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Barrelnut, post: 1197249, member: 74902"] Well I have an old original A-Bolt. Have had it since 1987 and have a soft spot for it. So, I started to stay out of this but...... Lots of good ideas here but I will go against the grain and say sell the rifle and buy something else. Reasons: * You have somewhat lost faith in it. (Maybe time for a change) * It doesn't shoot as well as it used to. * You want something with a brake and less muzzle jump. * Factory rifles have gotten a LOT more accurate since 1993. * Old A-Bolts have trigger issues and if it doesn't already, it will soon start to have a rough gritty pull that cannot be fixed. The trigger will have to be replaced. And I am not sure an A-Bolt II trigger will fit. Have to call Browning on that. Also no matter what, Browning triggers aren't that great and about all you can do to lower the pull weight is with a set of aftermarket Timney trigger springs that get mixed reviews. * There are also issue with the Browning action. (No gas ports at the front for a ruptured case. The only thing to stop the gases from hitting your face is the enlarged bolt shroud.... * The stocks don't bed well because the back screw actually part of the trigger housing and you cannot tighten it down much without affecting the trigger pull. So, I would sell it and get a Savage Bear hunter in 300 Win mag. Reasons: * Stay with the 300 Win because you elk hunt. * Comeswith an on/off break so you can use it when you want. * The Savage Accutrigger is one of, if not the best, factory triggers made and is easily adjustable down to 2.5 lb. * Savage rifles are some of the most accurate factory rifles made right now. The rifle will more than likely shoot 1/2 MOA or better right out of the box. * The stock is excellent with a full aluminum bedding block that will negate having to have it custom bedded. * Has a 23" barrel (21" + 2" break). This is a tad short for true long range work ( 700 yard plus) but you are shooting 100~200 yards. The shorter barrel is lighter, stiffer , and quick handling. This is important since you hike and shoot at game that you jump sometimes. * The rifle just looks great with the camo stock and stainless steel action and barrel. * The rifle weighs 7.75 LB. * Oh, one more thing. The Savage safety is a lot like the Browning safety, which you are no doubt very familiar with now. It is a thumb safety in the same location. The big difference is the Savage safety has "three" positions. The 3rd position allows you to unload the rifle with the safety on. The 2 position Browning safety cannot do that. That's a big plus IMO. Here's a link to the specs: [url=http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/16BH]Savage Arms[/url] Sell the Browning for 350 ~ 450. The Savage Bear Hunter for $860 online at BudsGunShop. Now you have a brand new kickass hunting rifle that fits your needs perfectly for around $500 dollars! You will never fix the Browning for that AND you don't have to deal with a smith and scarce barrels and replacement parts. Also, if you want to change barrels in the future, You can change the barrel yourself. No labor fees and waiting for a smith to get around to it. IMO, you cannot go wrong with this route. Good Luck [/QUOTE]
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