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Discussion in 'Muzzleloader Hunting' started by DOOKSUX, Jan 13, 2011.

  1. DOOKSUX

    DOOKSUX Member

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    I shoot the ML II savage. My load is 40gr. of accurate 5744, 45 cal. hornady 250gr HP/XTP, MMP sabot, the best I can do at 100yds is 2 1/2 group and this is on a lead sled, I would really like to get close to an inch if possible, if anybody sees what might be wrong or knows of something that could help it would be appreceiated.
     
  2. nctta

    nctta Well-Known Member

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  3. peashooter

    peashooter Well-Known Member

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    Hi Dooksux,

    I shoot a 10ml and it loves the 300 grain sabots. I shoot .458 300 grain 45/70 barnes original to very good groups. I am using Viht. 120 to 2325 fps. It could be pushed harder, but this is where the accuracy is at and pushing 300 grains at these velocities will thump you.
     
  4. trueblue

    trueblue Well-Known Member

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    You need to maybe change the sabot you are using to get a tighter fit with the bore.
    I had this same problem until I switched sabots to a thicker one, now my ML is shooting 1 MOA @ 300 yards.
    My load is Barnes 300gr originals with 58gr Vit120 and Harvester crushed rib sabots.
     
  5. StoneColdKiller

    StoneColdKiller New Member

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    Other than I shoot 45gr of 5744 our set up is the same and I get 1in groups at 100yds. My savage tightened up at 44gr and started to spread at 45.7gr I backed it off to 45gr and have never moved it since.
     
  6. Forester

    Forester Well-Known Member

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    This is not in the book...but it has been pressure tested.

    If your gun wont shoot with a Harvester Black Crush Rib Sabot, a 300gr Barnes Original and +/- 60gr of Vhit N120 then the gun needs attention.

    Mine shoots sub MOA at 100 with the above combination at 61.5gr of N120 and most every other one I have heard or read about will do at least decent. The downside is some wicked recoil and high dollar bullets and powder.

    One caveat, if your gun has the plastic stock you may be banging your head against a wall. It takes a good stiff stock to make these guns shoot and the old Savage tupperware is not at all up to it. I replaced mine with a laminate and cut groups significantly.