Sighting in My TC

Discussion in 'Muzzleloader Hunting' started by The Duke007, Oct 25, 2010.

  1. The Duke007

    The Duke007 Well-Known Member

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    I just purchased the new Ultimate Slam by Leupold and went to the range. I am shooting 150 grs of triple seven and 250gr hornady sst. The problem I am having is at 25yds I am shooting 2" low. I moved the target back to 100 yds and cannot find it anywhere. Any thoughts?
     
  2. kfrye

    kfrye Well-Known Member

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    Just a thought:

    What kind of mount do you have? I have a Talley integral base/ring set up with a VX-1 3x9 and mine shot really low at 25, 50, and 100. I am nearly out of vertical adjustment on mine at 100 yards. Be careful with the Leupy because if you go to far it will need to go back to factory because it will not track anymore. You may need to shim the base if you are close to running out of adjustment.

    Coming up 8 clicks should have put you close to a 100 yard zero with that combo.
     

  3. The Duke007

    The Duke007 Well-Known Member

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    Tnanks kfrye, I found the problem it was with my rings. I changed them to lower rings. Now im cutting holes at 100yds. Let you know if I get anything.
     
  4. kfrye

    kfrye Well-Known Member

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    Glad to hear you got it dialed in. Care to share your load combination? I'd also be interested in your opinion of the scope overall. I am shopping for one of these style scopes, but I'm wondering how the light gathering will be on these ultimateslam scopes, or if I should look for a LR scope with turrets.
     
  5. The Duke007

    The Duke007 Well-Known Member

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    Im loading 150 gr of triple 7 topped off with a hornady 250 gr sst. I went shooting today and at 100yds I was touching holes with three shots. I wish they offered the scope in a 50 mm objective to bring in a little more light. Theres also another thing they should have changed is the circle in around the center cross. A little cluttered. Overall its a pretty good scope.
     
  6. DANNY-L

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    Which t/c do you have?
     
  7. 45-70cannon

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    Why put a scope on a gun that will produce one hundred yard groups anyway? My Lyman Grt Plains 54 breaks skeet at 100yds. consistently and so does my Ruger ML-10 and neither have scopes. I figure if I can see the target and I usually do way before they are at 100 yards, and the loads are lighter than what you areloading, mine are at 100grs. of Triple 7 and that's the accuracy that I get. Once you find accuracy, adding more powder won't do much for you.





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  8. Hntbambi

    Hntbambi Well-Known Member

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    There are various reasons hunters and shooters use optics on their guns. Many like myself don't have perfect far vision. We owe it to the game to make as good of a shot as we can, and for me, that means optics.

    I also shoot a lot farther than 100 yards though. I shoot my .45 cal Knight (deer/pronghorn) and my .50 cal Omega (elk) out to 300 yards. I can break clay pigeons at 300 yards with them.

    If I stopped when I found accuracy, I would be using 25 gr of 2f with a patched round ball. I look for a high performance load in my current guns. Both are using 120 gr of powder and shoot very close to MOA at 300 yards.

    If you like sidelocks, that's cool. This is the long range hunting web site. I carry long range into front loaders too :D. gun)
     
  9. ATH

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    Duke, if you are still monitoring this thread, just so you know, you are technically over-charging your gun with 150gr of 777. Max charge in guns rated for 150gr BP/Pyrodex is 120gr 777. Call the manufacturer if you doubt me.

    I shoot 110gr 777 and a 200gr Shockwave and have taken deer to 338 yds with that combo...no need to run the gun hot.
     
  10. Hntbambi

    Hntbambi Well-Known Member

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    Unless of course he is using pellets. Then 150 is ok in most modern muzzleloaders to include TC Omega, Triumph, and Encore.

    You are correct that 120 is max for the loose T7.
     
  11. 45-70cannon

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    If you are using pellets, you aren't getting the true 50 grains per pellet anyway. They like to claim its a 50 grain pellet but more like 46 or so.

    The gentleman before had it right, overcharging the gun. and I know what you are saying about eyesight. Try shooting and being blind in one eye, but I shoot just the same. Living in MA allows one to shoot everything within 60 yards, unless hunting on the power lines and open sights are far faster than a scope anyday. That's not saying that my High power rifles aren't scoped, because they all are, but my in line isn't nor the side hammers, because I shoot traditional except if the weather is foul then the inline comes out. that one always goes off, no sweat!


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