For years I have shot the Sierra 165 gr, HPBT in my 300 wm and have switched to the 168 SMK this year. I have a new lease that can offer me a 500 yards plus shot from a few stands and I liked the higher BC. Most of my hunting will be done where shots will be in the 30 - 200 yards range. My question is where should I shoot for on whitetails. Do I need to shoot for the shoulder to make sure the bullet opens up, or should I avoid the shoulder so the bullet has adequate penetration? I would also ask the same question in regards to the 115 gr Berger VLD in a 25-06 rem. Thanks for your help. I almost chickened out and went to buy a box of the 165s to go back to yesterday. They were out so I guess it will be the SMK this year. Kind of glad they didn't have them. i have seen the results on paper and can't wait to try them in the field. I just want to make sure that I know what to expect from them.