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The Basics, Starting Out
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<blockquote data-quote="Bravo 4" data-source="post: 1165803" data-attributes="member: 8873"><p>I would tend to agree, however I don't think that with that bullet at that range you would have gotten less performance with a .308. Some could even read your post and say that the .300 seemed under gunned if it took all that to put it down. Personally I think that was a product of the type of bullet he was using and not the cartridge it came from. Not to get anything started as there are plenty of folks satisfied with the Barnes. That is just the same type of performance I have encountered, I've shot deer point blank (meere feet) with a .300 WM and 180 grainers and the deer didn't act hit. Took three shots and the last was between the eyes at about 75 yards. I don't care for them unless I want A LOT of penetration. </p><p>Elk are tough, on my first trip a guy shot one three times under 200 yards behind the shoulder with a .270 WSM with 140 Accubonds. It didn't flinch and he thought it was all misses, so another guy hit it twice behind the shoulder with a .300 WinMag and 180 Accubonds. It just walked over the crest of a hill like nothing happened, there it fell over dead. Then I watched one take two 300 grain matchkings and not flinch, the third round I put high shoulder and took him down. They are tough, but a .308 with that same Barnes bullet will probably darn near penetrate an elk from end to end under 100 yards.</p><p></p><p>Added: I wrote in the first paragraph that it may have been a product of the type of bullet, add to that bullet placement. I'm under the impression (with my limited elk experience) that if you expect a bang flop behind the shoulder shot you are asking for disappointment. I've killed lots of deer that way but elk aren't just big deer to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bravo 4, post: 1165803, member: 8873"] I would tend to agree, however I don't think that with that bullet at that range you would have gotten less performance with a .308. Some could even read your post and say that the .300 seemed under gunned if it took all that to put it down. Personally I think that was a product of the type of bullet he was using and not the cartridge it came from. Not to get anything started as there are plenty of folks satisfied with the Barnes. That is just the same type of performance I have encountered, I've shot deer point blank (meere feet) with a .300 WM and 180 grainers and the deer didn't act hit. Took three shots and the last was between the eyes at about 75 yards. I don't care for them unless I want A LOT of penetration. Elk are tough, on my first trip a guy shot one three times under 200 yards behind the shoulder with a .270 WSM with 140 Accubonds. It didn't flinch and he thought it was all misses, so another guy hit it twice behind the shoulder with a .300 WinMag and 180 Accubonds. It just walked over the crest of a hill like nothing happened, there it fell over dead. Then I watched one take two 300 grain matchkings and not flinch, the third round I put high shoulder and took him down. They are tough, but a .308 with that same Barnes bullet will probably darn near penetrate an elk from end to end under 100 yards. Added: I wrote in the first paragraph that it may have been a product of the type of bullet, add to that bullet placement. I'm under the impression (with my limited elk experience) that if you expect a bang flop behind the shoulder shot you are asking for disappointment. I've killed lots of deer that way but elk aren't just big deer to me. [/QUOTE]
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