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<blockquote data-quote="jmden" data-source="post: 588928" data-attributes="member: 1742"><p>Same species or not the wolves that were already here were very differnent, and the most salient point, they ACTED very different than that ones you and I as hunters paid (robbed) for to be introduced here. </p><p></p><p>Carefully read through the points that detail the difference in habits/actions between these two very different types of wolves in this email link below again from one of the people most involved in documenting the existence of the wolves that were here before the non-native, invasive Canadian Grey wolf was introduced:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2011/01/21/native-rocky-mountain-wolves-v-introduced-canadian-gray-wolves/" target="_blank">Native Rocky Mountain Wolves v. Introduced Canadian Gray Wolves - Black Bear Blog</a></p><p></p><p>The information is this email is and should be a major sticking point in this issue in my (albeit fallible) mind.</p><p></p><p>The Feds helicopter net gunned a very different wolf from not too far over the Canadian border, brought it back south across the 49 parallel and suddenly it's 'endangered'. </p><p></p><p>Think about that. The whole thing is a complete farce.</p><p></p><p>Dr. Val Geist is quoted as saying that 50% of a given wolf population would have to be killed every year for years to have an appreciable effect on increasing elk populations in the same areas. See below link:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://explorethebitterroot.com/removal-of-west-fork-wolves-unlikely-to-help-declining-elk-populations" target="_blank">Removal of West Fork Wolves Unlikely to Help declining Elk Populations</a></p><p></p><p>From above article: "Renowned wolf biologist, Dr. L. David Mech told me in a recent interview that removing wolves from the West Fork region would probably have little to no effect on restoring elk numbers. Wolves have a high birth rate and new wolves are likely to quickly claim territory opened by killing the current wolves. Dr. Mech believes we would have to remove far more wolves than the Federal Government will consider allowing to have any chance at helping the elk population."</p><p></p><p>This is a serious issue, made much more serious because of the kind of animal introduced. You have to really wonder about the mindset of the folks in the USFWS that were willing to rob 60 million+ dollars from the Pittman-Robertson fund in 1994ish--my money and your money from excise taxes on firearms ammunition etc. set up in 1936, I believe, largely to be given back the the states to manage their wildlife. Watching this interview with Jim Beers, who came out of that organization and saw for years what was going on, sheds some light on this:</p><p></p><p>[ame=http://vimeo.com/28939194]Crying Wolf - Jim Beers: The Demise of Conservation on Vimeo[/ame]</p><p></p><p>I'd encourage all to watch this and contemplate a bit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jmden, post: 588928, member: 1742"] Same species or not the wolves that were already here were very differnent, and the most salient point, they ACTED very different than that ones you and I as hunters paid (robbed) for to be introduced here. Carefully read through the points that detail the difference in habits/actions between these two very different types of wolves in this email link below again from one of the people most involved in documenting the existence of the wolves that were here before the non-native, invasive Canadian Grey wolf was introduced: [url=http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2011/01/21/native-rocky-mountain-wolves-v-introduced-canadian-gray-wolves/]Native Rocky Mountain Wolves v. Introduced Canadian Gray Wolves - Black Bear Blog[/url] The information is this email is and should be a major sticking point in this issue in my (albeit fallible) mind. The Feds helicopter net gunned a very different wolf from not too far over the Canadian border, brought it back south across the 49 parallel and suddenly it's 'endangered'. Think about that. The whole thing is a complete farce. Dr. Val Geist is quoted as saying that 50% of a given wolf population would have to be killed every year for years to have an appreciable effect on increasing elk populations in the same areas. See below link: [url=http://explorethebitterroot.com/removal-of-west-fork-wolves-unlikely-to-help-declining-elk-populations]Removal of West Fork Wolves Unlikely to Help declining Elk Populations[/url] From above article: "Renowned wolf biologist, Dr. L. David Mech told me in a recent interview that removing wolves from the West Fork region would probably have little to no effect on restoring elk numbers. Wolves have a high birth rate and new wolves are likely to quickly claim territory opened by killing the current wolves. Dr. Mech believes we would have to remove far more wolves than the Federal Government will consider allowing to have any chance at helping the elk population." This is a serious issue, made much more serious because of the kind of animal introduced. You have to really wonder about the mindset of the folks in the USFWS that were willing to rob 60 million+ dollars from the Pittman-Robertson fund in 1994ish--my money and your money from excise taxes on firearms ammunition etc. set up in 1936, I believe, largely to be given back the the states to manage their wildlife. Watching this interview with Jim Beers, who came out of that organization and saw for years what was going on, sheds some light on this: [ame=http://vimeo.com/28939194]Crying Wolf - Jim Beers: The Demise of Conservation on Vimeo[/ame] I'd encourage all to watch this and contemplate a bit. [/QUOTE]
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