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<blockquote data-quote="Rich Coyle" data-source="post: 1152641" data-attributes="member: 70559"><p>Don't get me going....well it's too late. I purchased a Bushnell 6500 4 1/2-30X50 (22.5 oz). It was blurry above 25X. I sent it to customer service and when it came back it was crystal clear above about 10X. I took advantage of their full refund. Since the insurance was on the receipt, they refunded that too. A few months later I bought another. It was fantastic<strong>!</strong> When I compared it to my Nightforce 12-42X56 (32 oz) on leaves and twigs about 140 yards away I couldn't tell any difference. But both were too heavy for my new ultralight rifle.</p><p></p><p>I bought a Swarovski z5 5-25X52 (18.1 oz). It was about the same as the other two on leaves and twigs. I made an eye chart with 1/4" lines and spaces. (If you want to see lots of comparisons with lots of optics send me a private message.) At a little over 500 yards in order to clearly distinguish the lines and spaces the Nightforce was set on 12X, the 6500 on 15 1/2X and the z5 on 16 1/2X. In low light the Nightforce is in a whole nother class above the other two. The z5 was a little better than the 6500.</p><p></p><p>I returned the z5 and bought another. It was definitely <strong>not</strong> as good as the first one and no better than the 6500 in low light. A fellow hunter bought it from me, even when I told him it was not as good as my Bushnell. I bought another z5. To my chagrin it was no better than the second one. Again the same guy wanted to buy it. I guess he was not into glass, but name. I ordered another. This one had the Ballistic Turret. It was the slightest bit better than the first and definitely better than the 6500 in low light.</p><p></p><p>I was discusted to discover the windage didn't move the first two times I twisted it. When it did move it went too far<strong>!</strong> Finally it was zeroed. I worked up a load with the ultralight and set the turret. I practiced often. The day before going to Alaska the turret malfunctioned, but the zero stayed on. When I returned from the trip I sent it to customer service. They replaced some stuff in the erector. I sighted it in again and practiced with the turret. Again the day before a sheep hunt the turret malfunctioned again, but the zero held. Upon returning the z5 went back to customer service.</p><p></p><p>Being a diehard sorta guy I sighted in again. Once I dialed it up to 500 yards and back to zero it went too far. Again I sent it to customer service. They charged me $30 for something. I sold it before trying it on the rifle.</p><p></p><p>When the Nikon I compared it to my VX-6 4-24X52; which I compared with the z5. I was delighted to see the glass was just about the same as the z5. Despite the z5 having a 52mm objective, according to records, the Nikon's 40mm was just about the same.</p><p></p><p>So far there has not been a Swarovski, including my shooting friend's z6 3-18X44, that matches my 6500 on the same magnification setting. I will compare the 6500 and the Nikon today, Lord willin'.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rich Coyle, post: 1152641, member: 70559"] Don't get me going....well it's too late. I purchased a Bushnell 6500 4 1/2-30X50 (22.5 oz). It was blurry above 25X. I sent it to customer service and when it came back it was crystal clear above about 10X. I took advantage of their full refund. Since the insurance was on the receipt, they refunded that too. A few months later I bought another. It was fantastic[B]![/B] When I compared it to my Nightforce 12-42X56 (32 oz) on leaves and twigs about 140 yards away I couldn't tell any difference. But both were too heavy for my new ultralight rifle. I bought a Swarovski z5 5-25X52 (18.1 oz). It was about the same as the other two on leaves and twigs. I made an eye chart with 1/4" lines and spaces. (If you want to see lots of comparisons with lots of optics send me a private message.) At a little over 500 yards in order to clearly distinguish the lines and spaces the Nightforce was set on 12X, the 6500 on 15 1/2X and the z5 on 16 1/2X. In low light the Nightforce is in a whole nother class above the other two. The z5 was a little better than the 6500. I returned the z5 and bought another. It was definitely [B]not[/B] as good as the first one and no better than the 6500 in low light. A fellow hunter bought it from me, even when I told him it was not as good as my Bushnell. I bought another z5. To my chagrin it was no better than the second one. Again the same guy wanted to buy it. I guess he was not into glass, but name. I ordered another. This one had the Ballistic Turret. It was the slightest bit better than the first and definitely better than the 6500 in low light. I was discusted to discover the windage didn't move the first two times I twisted it. When it did move it went too far[B]![/B] Finally it was zeroed. I worked up a load with the ultralight and set the turret. I practiced often. The day before going to Alaska the turret malfunctioned, but the zero stayed on. When I returned from the trip I sent it to customer service. They replaced some stuff in the erector. I sighted it in again and practiced with the turret. Again the day before a sheep hunt the turret malfunctioned again, but the zero held. Upon returning the z5 went back to customer service. Being a diehard sorta guy I sighted in again. Once I dialed it up to 500 yards and back to zero it went too far. Again I sent it to customer service. They charged me $30 for something. I sold it before trying it on the rifle. When the Nikon I compared it to my VX-6 4-24X52; which I compared with the z5. I was delighted to see the glass was just about the same as the z5. Despite the z5 having a 52mm objective, according to records, the Nikon's 40mm was just about the same. So far there has not been a Swarovski, including my shooting friend's z6 3-18X44, that matches my 6500 on the same magnification setting. I will compare the 6500 and the Nikon today, Lord willin'. [/QUOTE]
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