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<blockquote data-quote="Paladin300" data-source="post: 2972957" data-attributes="member: 115299"><p>Back then 400 yards was a long shot. Most of us knew enough to zero our rifles at 200-250 and then hold across his back. If the wind was blowing we would throw in a little Kentucky windage and hope for the best!<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😉" title="Winking face :wink:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" data-shortname=":wink:" /> Nobody dialed their scopes. If you were lucky you had mil-dots. We zeroed and left it and held holdovers. The first time I shot a 1000 yards I shot it with a Millet 6-24 with a mil-dot on top of a 308. It was a Kimber LPT. It was in the late 90s. What amazes me is all this debate over scopes and then some guys takes an 06 with adjustable sights and tattoos a 24" circle at a 1000 yards. All the fancy stuff we have now we could only dream of prior to 92. The Mark 4 changed everything. Those original scopes were 2nd FP with MOA turrets and mil reticles. How did we ever do it without a NF???<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤔" title="Thinking face :thinking:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f914.png" data-shortname=":thinking:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤨" title="Face with raised eyebrow :face_with_raised_eyebrow:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f928.png" data-shortname=":face_with_raised_eyebrow:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /> What the new tier one scopes allow us to do is really push the envelope on accuracy and distance. Nobody would have dreamed that a 2 mile shot (3520 yards) was even possible back in the 90s. If someone did make one it was chalked up to dumb luck. Now it is not only possible it can be done with some measure of precision. So again what do you want to do with your scope. A scope made for rugged reliability in the mountains under $1000 is probably not going to let you shoot beyond 600 in adverse conditions. The scope that will allow for that at the same price point is probably not going to be that rugged. One of the days we hunted in Norway was cold with a fog layer covering the mountain and a slight rain. We are talking about reliability to hold zero. In those conditions you need to know your scope won't fog up as well. While holding zero is agreed the most important function of a scope there is so much more at play when hunting in extreme terrain and unfortunately you can't really get everything you need for that in a modern sub $500 scope. At least not one I have seen. If I were in that price range for a hunting scope I would look for and Older VXIII gold ring. I am just thinking out loud here!<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤔" title="Thinking face :thinking:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f914.png" data-shortname=":thinking:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paladin300, post: 2972957, member: 115299"] Back then 400 yards was a long shot. Most of us knew enough to zero our rifles at 200-250 and then hold across his back. If the wind was blowing we would throw in a little Kentucky windage and hope for the best!😉 Nobody dialed their scopes. If you were lucky you had mil-dots. We zeroed and left it and held holdovers. The first time I shot a 1000 yards I shot it with a Millet 6-24 with a mil-dot on top of a 308. It was a Kimber LPT. It was in the late 90s. What amazes me is all this debate over scopes and then some guys takes an 06 with adjustable sights and tattoos a 24" circle at a 1000 yards. All the fancy stuff we have now we could only dream of prior to 92. The Mark 4 changed everything. Those original scopes were 2nd FP with MOA turrets and mil reticles. How did we ever do it without a NF???🤔🤨😂 What the new tier one scopes allow us to do is really push the envelope on accuracy and distance. Nobody would have dreamed that a 2 mile shot (3520 yards) was even possible back in the 90s. If someone did make one it was chalked up to dumb luck. Now it is not only possible it can be done with some measure of precision. So again what do you want to do with your scope. A scope made for rugged reliability in the mountains under $1000 is probably not going to let you shoot beyond 600 in adverse conditions. The scope that will allow for that at the same price point is probably not going to be that rugged. One of the days we hunted in Norway was cold with a fog layer covering the mountain and a slight rain. We are talking about reliability to hold zero. In those conditions you need to know your scope won't fog up as well. While holding zero is agreed the most important function of a scope there is so much more at play when hunting in extreme terrain and unfortunately you can't really get everything you need for that in a modern sub $500 scope. At least not one I have seen. If I were in that price range for a hunting scope I would look for and Older VXIII gold ring. I am just thinking out loud here!🤔 [/QUOTE]
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