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<blockquote data-quote="Fitch" data-source="post: 316714" data-attributes="member: 19372"><p>I am fortunate to have access to a borescope pretty much any time I need it. Looking in Savage barrels is definitely a learning experience. If you ever get the chance to have a Hawkeye borescope home for a weekend take it. My gunsmith is out of town for three weeks so I've had one here for two weeks. Looked at every barrel here. Definite learning experience, but I digress.</p><p> </p><p>The button rifling tool will almost always leave some chatter marks in the barrel and since the barrels aren't lapped, the marks will still be there. They can be quite faint in their top of the line rifles like my .22-250 LRPV LRPV or look a lot like file teeth in the package rifles (like my Model 10 .243). The chatter marks accumulate copper like filing a copper bar. The faint marks filing less off the bullet than the deep ones. In my Model 10 the chatter marks were deeper than the lands and well into the bottom of the groove). It takes serious soaking with something like BoreTech or another real good copper remover to get it out. Mine copper foul on the first shot.</p><p> </p><p>That said, I've had reasonable performance with one of my two Savage Rifles. The Model 10 was a 2.5 MOA gun from the factory. Probablly good enough for the audience for which it was intended, but I didn't like that. Handloads reduced it to 2 MOA. Rebarreling it with an A&B baarrel (I know, but trust me on this, the A&B barrel was so much better than the factory barrel it defies comparison) took it down to about 1 MOA, bedding it took it down to a real 3/4 minute rifle (five 5 shot groups aggragating just under 1/2") with handloads off a bench rest. </p><p> </p><p>The Model 12 LRPV (single shot .22-250, 9" twist) was a genuine 1/2 minute rifle based on 10 shot groups out of the box with handloads and stayed that way for about 2,500 rounds after which the groups started to expand rapidly and the throat looked like a dry lake bed in mid summer. Barrel was set back 1-1/2" to get past the erosion, rechambered, and recrowned, and now it's back to about a 3/4 minute rifle. It shoots minute of ground hog out to about 300 yards which is as far as I can spot them with old eyes.</p><p> </p><p>Fitch</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fitch, post: 316714, member: 19372"] I am fortunate to have access to a borescope pretty much any time I need it. Looking in Savage barrels is definitely a learning experience. If you ever get the chance to have a Hawkeye borescope home for a weekend take it. My gunsmith is out of town for three weeks so I've had one here for two weeks. Looked at every barrel here. Definite learning experience, but I digress. The button rifling tool will almost always leave some chatter marks in the barrel and since the barrels aren't lapped, the marks will still be there. They can be quite faint in their top of the line rifles like my .22-250 LRPV LRPV or look a lot like file teeth in the package rifles (like my Model 10 .243). The chatter marks accumulate copper like filing a copper bar. The faint marks filing less off the bullet than the deep ones. In my Model 10 the chatter marks were deeper than the lands and well into the bottom of the groove). It takes serious soaking with something like BoreTech or another real good copper remover to get it out. Mine copper foul on the first shot. That said, I've had reasonable performance with one of my two Savage Rifles. The Model 10 was a 2.5 MOA gun from the factory. Probablly good enough for the audience for which it was intended, but I didn't like that. Handloads reduced it to 2 MOA. Rebarreling it with an A&B baarrel (I know, but trust me on this, the A&B barrel was so much better than the factory barrel it defies comparison) took it down to about 1 MOA, bedding it took it down to a real 3/4 minute rifle (five 5 shot groups aggragating just under 1/2") with handloads off a bench rest. The Model 12 LRPV (single shot .22-250, 9" twist) was a genuine 1/2 minute rifle based on 10 shot groups out of the box with handloads and stayed that way for about 2,500 rounds after which the groups started to expand rapidly and the throat looked like a dry lake bed in mid summer. Barrel was set back 1-1/2" to get past the erosion, rechambered, and recrowned, and now it's back to about a 3/4 minute rifle. It shoots minute of ground hog out to about 300 yards which is as far as I can spot them with old eyes. Fitch [/QUOTE]
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