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<blockquote data-quote="4mesh063" data-source="post: 25282" data-attributes="member: 941"><p>Tim, </p><p></p><p>Max here has the best solution for you. The Lee Collet dies eliminate the expander altogether. To be honest, it's been about 2 years since I used a die I didn't make so I didn't really think to say anything about the lee dies. There is actually the most used commercially made die at the PA 1000 yd club. I made my own collet dies and was not real thrilled with the longevity of my brass but then they were my first attempt at making collet dies. I made mine from 416SS, collet and all. </p><p></p><p>Another thing I do is turn my necks on all my guns cases. I use two different methods for that also. My match gun's cases are all done in a CNC lathe. My hunting guns are done with a Sinclair or K&M Turning tool. I like the K&M Tool better but I have every mandrel for the Sinclar one so I use that one on the smaller cal guns. You can turn your necks down so that your die will close the opening just enough to get the bullet press fit you want. I go to about .0025 under. Now you may throw away the expander and don't need to worry about pulling on the necks of your cases. For instance, I use a 7mm expander for all my 30Cal cases. All I want to do is knock out the primer. Don't let that sucker touch anything. </p><p></p><p>Several companys sell carbide expander buttons for thier dies and you can get one of them also. They're about $20 if I remember right. I kinda prefer turning the necks and letting the die do its thing so I never bought one. Actually, I did ask one of the vendors at the range to bring me one, Then I asked again, and again, and after the 7th week I said screw it. I try to buy from the guys at the range but I'm just gonna go so far out of my way to give someone money.</p><p></p><p>The idea of "tuning" sounds pretty reasonable. I'm not going to try it as I don't have the problem any more but it sounds plausable that it would help. </p><p></p><p>For what it's worth, My swift dies are Lee Collet dies and just because my brother got a set of horrible out of round rcbs dies we decided to do a test. We chucked up the dies in the lathe and indicated the opening, then the neck area. The Lee dies were dead nuts on the money. </p><p></p><p>Let us know what helps You the most. </p><p></p><p>It is kinda funny, almost every time someone has a problem, My solution is to go buy something. I'm laughing as I type this but that's the general cure at the 1000yd club!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="4mesh063, post: 25282, member: 941"] Tim, Max here has the best solution for you. The Lee Collet dies eliminate the expander altogether. To be honest, it's been about 2 years since I used a die I didn't make so I didn't really think to say anything about the lee dies. There is actually the most used commercially made die at the PA 1000 yd club. I made my own collet dies and was not real thrilled with the longevity of my brass but then they were my first attempt at making collet dies. I made mine from 416SS, collet and all. Another thing I do is turn my necks on all my guns cases. I use two different methods for that also. My match gun's cases are all done in a CNC lathe. My hunting guns are done with a Sinclair or K&M Turning tool. I like the K&M Tool better but I have every mandrel for the Sinclar one so I use that one on the smaller cal guns. You can turn your necks down so that your die will close the opening just enough to get the bullet press fit you want. I go to about .0025 under. Now you may throw away the expander and don't need to worry about pulling on the necks of your cases. For instance, I use a 7mm expander for all my 30Cal cases. All I want to do is knock out the primer. Don't let that sucker touch anything. Several companys sell carbide expander buttons for thier dies and you can get one of them also. They're about $20 if I remember right. I kinda prefer turning the necks and letting the die do its thing so I never bought one. Actually, I did ask one of the vendors at the range to bring me one, Then I asked again, and again, and after the 7th week I said screw it. I try to buy from the guys at the range but I'm just gonna go so far out of my way to give someone money. The idea of "tuning" sounds pretty reasonable. I'm not going to try it as I don't have the problem any more but it sounds plausable that it would help. For what it's worth, My swift dies are Lee Collet dies and just because my brother got a set of horrible out of round rcbs dies we decided to do a test. We chucked up the dies in the lathe and indicated the opening, then the neck area. The Lee dies were dead nuts on the money. Let us know what helps You the most. It is kinda funny, almost every time someone has a problem, My solution is to go buy something. I'm laughing as I type this but that's the general cure at the 1000yd club! [/QUOTE]
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