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Rimfire suppressor or adult air rfie? A breakdown with a question
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<blockquote data-quote="rash powder" data-source="post: 691674" data-attributes="member: 38924"><p>I am not certain as to the local laws where you are, but in North Dakota an air rifle is considered a firearm. It is not sold as one in the sense of paperwork; but as far as the police and DNR are concerned it is a firearm.</p><p></p><p>From my readings on various air rifle forums I feel rather confident in saying most municipalities consider them to be firearms, in much the same way as ND. </p><p></p><p>I only mention this as you said an rifle is not a firearm. </p><p></p><p>As for an air gun, depending on what you are looking to do with it a PCP is not your only option. I have a RWS 350 Magnum in .177 that shoots 8ish grain pellets at a little over 1000 fps and a RWS 48 in .22 with a lube tune that chronies at a little over 800 fps. If you do your part right and put the pellet where it bell gas these will kill at 50 yards easily. They are also not very loud and totally self contained, no compressor needed. The model 48 can be had in .25, but that is hard to come by.</p><p></p><p>Regardless of the power source your air rifle uses, you HAVE to keep your velocities below the speed of sound. The pellets were not meant to go that fast, and the pressure wave created by passing the sound barrier will upset there flight path. </p><p></p><p>You will also find that for the utmost in accuracy you will be shopping for the pellet your particular gun likes best. I have seen some threads that indicate one pellet brand is better at distance x while another is better at distance y through the same gun. Also, while all the pellets may be for a .22, the head size is important too. Your .22, which is 5.5 mm, may like 5.52 or 5.54 over the other head sizes. Some pellets can be bought presorted, others you will be sorting. </p><p></p><p>PCP guns aren't hold sensitive, while spring guns are. Once you find how your gun likes to be held you must shoot it the same every time. </p><p></p><p>Air rifles have been around a very long time. Lewis and Clark used them. They can be quite accurate and they can be quite frustrating too.</p><p></p><p>I am not trying to scare you off air here, more of just trying to help you decide by letting you in on what affects accuracy and such with the air gun. Shot placement is absolutely critical as you have no hydrostatic shock to make up for being a little off. It is recommended that every shot be a head shot on our quarry so as to be absolutely certain it is dead.</p><p></p><p>If you are set on PCP, my recommendation would be an Air Force Condor. I don't have one, but when I do go that route that is what I will acquire. They are quite modifiable and can be built into exactly what you need them to be.</p><p></p><p>Check out <a href="http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/" target="_blank">Airguns GTA - Air Rifle - Air Pistol</a> for an absolute wealth of information on airguns. There is also the Dianawerk collective and the yellow forum (just Google airgun yellow forum). </p><p></p><p>I hope I have helped in some small way, and that you find the correct product for your needs.</p><p></p><p>Good luck!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rash powder, post: 691674, member: 38924"] I am not certain as to the local laws where you are, but in North Dakota an air rifle is considered a firearm. It is not sold as one in the sense of paperwork; but as far as the police and DNR are concerned it is a firearm. From my readings on various air rifle forums I feel rather confident in saying most municipalities consider them to be firearms, in much the same way as ND. I only mention this as you said an rifle is not a firearm. As for an air gun, depending on what you are looking to do with it a PCP is not your only option. I have a RWS 350 Magnum in .177 that shoots 8ish grain pellets at a little over 1000 fps and a RWS 48 in .22 with a lube tune that chronies at a little over 800 fps. If you do your part right and put the pellet where it bell gas these will kill at 50 yards easily. They are also not very loud and totally self contained, no compressor needed. The model 48 can be had in .25, but that is hard to come by. Regardless of the power source your air rifle uses, you HAVE to keep your velocities below the speed of sound. The pellets were not meant to go that fast, and the pressure wave created by passing the sound barrier will upset there flight path. You will also find that for the utmost in accuracy you will be shopping for the pellet your particular gun likes best. I have seen some threads that indicate one pellet brand is better at distance x while another is better at distance y through the same gun. Also, while all the pellets may be for a .22, the head size is important too. Your .22, which is 5.5 mm, may like 5.52 or 5.54 over the other head sizes. Some pellets can be bought presorted, others you will be sorting. PCP guns aren't hold sensitive, while spring guns are. Once you find how your gun likes to be held you must shoot it the same every time. Air rifles have been around a very long time. Lewis and Clark used them. They can be quite accurate and they can be quite frustrating too. I am not trying to scare you off air here, more of just trying to help you decide by letting you in on what affects accuracy and such with the air gun. Shot placement is absolutely critical as you have no hydrostatic shock to make up for being a little off. It is recommended that every shot be a head shot on our quarry so as to be absolutely certain it is dead. If you are set on PCP, my recommendation would be an Air Force Condor. I don't have one, but when I do go that route that is what I will acquire. They are quite modifiable and can be built into exactly what you need them to be. Check out [url=http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/]Airguns GTA - Air Rifle - Air Pistol[/url] for an absolute wealth of information on airguns. There is also the Dianawerk collective and the yellow forum (just Google airgun yellow forum). I hope I have helped in some small way, and that you find the correct product for your needs. Good luck! [/QUOTE]
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