rimfire .22 misfireing

Discussion in 'Rimfire and Airguns' started by gcop 270cal, Jun 24, 2010.

  1. gcop 270cal

    gcop 270cal New Member

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    i have a question of which i hope some light could be shed on.

    My question relates to my 1948 BSA Sportsmans Five .22 cal rimfire rifle. i have shot countless amounts of rounds through it in the past couple years, most acurate gun ive shot. a couple months back it started misfireing 1 in every 10-15 rounds, i sourced another firing pin for it which had been tested and shown working 100% and thus solved my problem. After possibly anther 300 rounds through it over the course of several months it now misfires almost every time. i am using remmington subsonic rounds and i have ruled out the possibility of the ammo being faulty as i have just tested the same batch in a newer rifle and 100% working.

    i would apreciate any thoughts as to the possibe cause of this dilema. thanks in advance, grant.
     
  2. Kevin Thomas

    Kevin Thomas Well-Known Member

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    Any springs replaced here? Be one of he first things I'd want to look at when dealing with a rifle that's seen this much use.

    Kevin Thomas
    Lapua USA
     

  3. gcop 270cal

    gcop 270cal New Member

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    thanks for your reply.
    since posting my question i have individualy weighed a batch of these remmington subsonics with lee reloading scales and found that there is in most cases a 30% deviation in the amount of power in the shells with the conclusion that the light loads werent igniteing.

    i had changed the firing pin as i said, possibly you could be on to somthing with the springs as they havnt been replaced to my knowledge.

    The rifle was made in 1948 so i'd say it has seen a few shoots :)

    il try and source a new spring or entire bolt and see how i go.

    cheers,
    grant
     
  4. Sidesy

    Sidesy Active Member

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    i stopped buying remy ammo especially the HMR. I use Winny X's now and although a little dirty they seem to cycle correctly and NOT misfire . I hope you bget it sorted as it can be very frustrating, Gary
     
  5. gcop 270cal

    gcop 270cal New Member

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    An update on the misifireing .22 subsonics for those who may be interested.

    I have been unable to source a new spring for this rifle. but i have sourced some different ammo. i purchased a couple bulk packs of CCI .22 subsonics and after limited testing there is a enormous difference in quality of bullets.

    CCI .22 subsonics outperform remmington subsonics in every apsect. they are more accurate, the effective range is now up to 150 meters compared to 100 or so for the remmington, and the CCI's havnt failed to fire.

    Conclusion, throw away all of your remminginton .22 subsonics and purchase CCI !

    although if by any chance someone has a spring for a 1948 bsa sportsmans five, i would be keen to hear from them.

    grant.
     
  6. shootinwv

    shootinwv Member

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    My first guess would still be light strikes. I would change the spring as well just to be sure. Check with J&P gun springs. I am sure they will be ablr to help you.
     
  7. kweidner

    kweidner Well-Known Member

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    I have to agree with the spring and light strikes. I real don't think it is that certain ammo in all guns. It sounds to me like it takes a little more to get the ammo you have chosen to go off. You did mention in cycled and shot fine in another gun in your original post. Your replacement ammo may not need as much force from the firing pin to go off and thus your success. I have to agree with the consensus on the spring thing. Try it and give your "unreliable" ammo another go. I bet you'd be surprised.
     
  8. Rockymtnboy

    Rockymtnboy New Member

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    +2 on the spring replacement. Who knows how many rounds that rifle has seen in its day, or how many times it was stored in the cocked position which could shorten the life of the spring dramatically.

    Some ammo manufacturers use primers that require a heavier strike than others. For instance, some millitary centerfire ammo requires 4.5 lbs instead of the civilian standard of 3.5 lbs to set off the primer...I'm thinking the same could be for rimfires depending on their specific setups.
     
  9. 13point

    13point Well-Known Member

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    I have a 10/22 that has some major upgrades (firing pin ground, pinned, and headspaced). I still have a dud with the Remington Subs every 20 or so rounds. I don't think the qualilty is there. The guys over on RFC have the same problems with them. I bought a load of them when ammo was so hard to get a couple years ago. I'll have to deal with them for now. I will be getting Eley or CCI Subs for hunting and use the Remingtons for fun.