Rifle ID

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by madcow41, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. madcow41

    madcow41 Active Member

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    So Im told it is a Hart, however but this marking is odd


    Any thoughts
     

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  2. johnnyk

    johnnyk Well-Known Member

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    My eyes are getting bad!


    Too blurry man, can't make it out. JohnnyK.
     

  3. madcow41

    madcow41 Active Member

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    here it is drawn out, not the easiest thing to take a picture of...or draw
     

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  4. Bullet bumper

    Bullet bumper Well-Known Member

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    It could be an old CZ , Česká zbrojovka marking . A barrel does not necessarily identify an action and vicer versa .
    Need photos of the whole gun . The recoil lug and front screw position looks ala Mod 70 Winchester .
    From the marks on the barrel I would say it has been removed and replaced by an amature.
     
  5. madcow41

    madcow41 Active Member

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    My bad, it is a win model 70 pre 64, the ID was for the barrel. It looks alot like a hart barrel but I am trying to determine if it is true. It appears to be an older barrel, Seems trued to the action and doesn't look botched IMO
     
  6. Bullet bumper

    Bullet bumper Well-Known Member

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    From the collet clamping scratch marks I would say it has been at least fitted by someone not so skilled in gunsmithing. However the threading and chambering might be ok , it's impossible to say.
    Rifling profile might tell you something if it's not too worn . Hart barrels were button rifled.
     
  7. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    The cartouche is definitely not a Hart marking.

    Early on when most companies did not have good luck with making Stainless barrels they used
    Hart barrels that were marked with a heart shaped cartouche.

    But if a gunsmith installed it It could be a Hart with his proof mark.

    If it was factory installed it will have proof marks and the factory logo on it.

    J E CUSTOM