replacing plastic stock on Rem 700

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by dmax1800, Feb 13, 2014.

  1. dmax1800

    dmax1800 Well-Known Member

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    I have one of the cheap Remington plastic stocks on my 22-250. It shoots pretty good now, but the POI shifts with changes in temperature. The barrel is a sporter barrel, not a varmint or bull barrel. The barrel is also not free floated. There are several pressure ridges in the forearm of the stock. A gunsmith said the stock is not rigid enough to grind away the ridges to free float the barrel.

    I'm considering replacing the stock to get rid of the changes in POI due to temperature changes. I want a composite stock, not wood or laminate. I had a B & C Medalist on my 300 and didn't care for it. I replaced it with a McMillan. I really don't want to spend the money for either a McMillan or Manners for the 22-250 if I don't have to. I've looked at H-S Precision.

    Could free floating the barrel adversely effect the accuracy?

    Which stock would you suggest for an affordable stock that is not effected by temperature? Should it be skim-coat bedded?
     
  2. Trever

    Trever Well-Known Member

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    Choate, maybe try to find a take stock from a Remington tactical or varmint series rifle. I have a b&c medalist v-t, I like it but mine isn't a carry rifle and with flush cups its awkward to carry for me.
     

  3. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    For the money, it's hard to beat a B&C Medalist, or an HS Precision stock. I have both on rifles. Mostly HS Precisions. No complaints from me.
     
  4. Trever

    Trever Well-Known Member

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    Well what did you decide
     
  5. dmax1800

    dmax1800 Well-Known Member

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    I've talked to a few people and almost all said that, yes, indeed the cheap Rem stock would change POI with wide temperature changes. I really don't like the idea of stepping out of the warm pickup to shoot a coyote and having to aim differently than walking for a mile in 10 degree weather and shooting a coyote. Or calling one up while in 20 degree temps. Plus a trusted gunsmith said that the stock is so cheap that just holding the gun different vs shooting off of sand bags vs off of a shooting rest would change accuracy, consistency and POI. He also said that changing from a stock with pressure ridges to a stock that free floats the barrel should not negatively impact accuracy. If the gun already shoots well, it should continue to shoot well. If it doesn't shoot the best, a new stock might improve accuracy a little, or maybe a lot.

    I just have to talk myself into spending the money on a new stock. I'm probably going to get a H-S Precision, [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Pro-Series 2000 Sporter Stock w Cheekpiece[/FONT]. HS rep said that I wouldn't even have to bed the stock. I searched the want ads and several guys like the vertical grip. I've never shot a rifle with vertical grip and don't know whether I would like it or not. My other 2 rifles are traditional hunting stocks.
     
  6. LoneTraveler

    LoneTraveler Well-Known Member

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    Been there and done that. I bought a 700 SS in 338 WM. I could actually feel the stock flexing. When I tried to use a sling when in the sitting position it would shoot crazy. It kicked like a Missouri Mule. I bought an H&S Precision in sporting stock with the Aluminum bedding plate. The Fiberglass Stock is stiff and very stable. I have went with friends to the range to zero their rifles. Take my 338 out of the case shoot 3 or 5 shot 1 inch group 2" high at 100 yds., and put it back in the case. I have not had the caps off the scope since I changed stocks. Does not kick as hard, Nearly fun to shoot now. I have heard horror stories of people trying to use front sling swivel bi-pods on Remington factory synthetic stocks. Good Luck.
     
  7. benchracer

    benchracer Well-Known Member

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    If you are going to go with a synthetic stock, the only way to reap any advantages of doing so is to spend the money for a QUALITY synthetic stock. HS Precision stocks are exactly that and well worth the money. You are making the right call to go that route, IMO.
     
  8. Trever

    Trever Well-Known Member

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    I had the exact same problem you had. Well not temperature, but shooting positions. I zeroed off a bench with a bag under the action screw. Standing it shot different, and a bipod really slung them around.
     
  9. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    Well, the main difference I've foundc other than the full-length aluminum bedding block, is that HS and B&C stocks are made of solid fiberglass (doesn't flex) and the cheap junky crappy factory Rem synthetic stocks are made of plastic, like a Rubbermade container. The factory synthetic stocks for Browning A-Bolts are the same way.
     
  10. dmax1800

    dmax1800 Well-Known Member

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    I think I'm going to get the H-S Precision stock. Now which color? I know color is all personal preference, but I'm wondering what you guys think. The factory stock is all black. I've considered the tan with black webbing. The black with gray webbing is also interesting.
    For a hunting rifle, which one do you guys like?
     
  11. jweigel

    jweigel Well-Known Member

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    I am going through the same thing with an older 25 - 06 SPS Stainless. I just got a new Sendero and love the difference in stock quality.

    My challenge is my daughter likes to shoot this 25-06 and thinks the fit is much better then the Sendero even though they are both 31.5" LOP.

    I have it down to four replacements....2 BC and 2 HS.

    From Lightest to heaviest.

    BC Alaskan II @ 30 oz.
    BC Medalist @ 36 oz.
    HS 2000 w/ Cheek 37 oz.
    HS 2000 w/o Cheek 39 oz.

    Aside from the weight, which of these will give the smallest, most compact fit (for a lady) if there is any difference?

    I have also read that some of these have a pretty wide gap when installing a sport barrel like the 700 SSP???

    I want the full aluminum bed block. and I believe all these will have that.

    Thanks for any comments or suggestions.

    Jerry
    Bismarck, ND
     
  12. blackaj

    blackaj Well-Known Member

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    I bought a model 700 xcr in 338 RUM, replaced the cheap stock with a B&C Alaskan II and I couldn't be happier.
    the Alaskan weighs the same as the original stock, which to me is important for a hunting rifle,
    and the quality is great. I've been shooting to 1100 yards in all sorts of temps and haven't had any POI changes. Of course the powder needs to be considered as well, make sure you use a temp stable powder or you'll never be consistent!
     
  13. dmax1800

    dmax1800 Well-Known Member

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    I finally "pulled the trigger" this morning. I ordered a H-S Precision [FONT="Trebuchet MS", Arial, Helvetica]Pro-Series 2000 Sporter Stock in tan with black webbing. Should be here Friday. Can't wait to try it out!!! Only bad thing, I have to start all over again with ladder tests and group tests. Guess I'll have to go to the shooting range again. Oh darn!

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  14. jweigel

    jweigel Well-Known Member

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    I just installed the B&C Alaskan II. I was surprised to see it had the two "humps" on the front of the stock like the factory stock which causes the barrel to make contact there. Reading Stockys instructions say to just shoot. Is that common with B&C stocks for Rem700?

    Should I just leave it and see how it shoots? Going to be a while for some snow and ice to melt.

    jjw
    ND