Remington XCR, XCR II, Sendero, LRT

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by MHO, Dec 28, 2010.

  1. MHO

    MHO Well-Known Member

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    OK guys. I am new to this site but have been reading everyones input for advice for a long time. I am looking for a new 300 Win mag for hunting. We shoot out to 800 yards. I have been looking at the Remington XCR II, XCR, Sendero and LRT. My question is, would I be better off saving the difference in price with the XCR or XCR II and have a gunsmith "accurize it" over the sendero or LRT? Im not dead set on Remington. Any advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks
     
  2. roninflag

    roninflag Well-Known Member

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    sendero
     

  3. BlackSS

    BlackSS Well-Known Member

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    Save even more money... buy a savage. It will likely shoot like the Sendero without work.
     
  4. MHO

    MHO Well-Known Member

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    Roninflag and BlackSS. Thank you for your input. BlackSS I have been looking at the Savage 111 LH.
     
  5. longrange700

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    I have a LRT in 308. win and it shoots in the .3's I am sure with some load development the 300 would do the same and they are very well built really cool stock very nice finish and weather proof, whatever you do spend the same amount or more on the glass you put on it. I have taken deer out to 650 with mine and it shoots awesome all the way to 1000y.
     
  6. jlamb

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    I have a Savage Model 10 that shoots under .5" while my other rifles that have had a ton of work struggle to just get to .5". I'm looking at the long range hunter.
     
  7. Buano

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    When shooting deer inside 150 yards, the 4-5" group from grandpa's 30-30 was meat on the table. If you are shooting to 800 yards, you need a rifle shooting .75 moa or better, preferably under .5 moa.

    The XCR & XCR2 are great rifles, but they are not known for sub .5 moa groups. Their claim to fame is they are the most weatherproof rifles in production. I do not think these are within the "reasonably certain to kill quickly & humanely at 800 yards" class of rifles.

    I've seen Senderos shoot sub .5 moa groups & I've seen Savages do it. With the Savage you get a good stock & trigger, while the Sendero gives you a good stock & fair trigger. The Sendero is a good rifle while almost every Savage made shoots very well. I think the Savage has a definite advantage in what you are likely to spend to get your rifle shooting sub .5 moa, in that the Savage will likely do that stock while the Sendero will likely do that only after you've paid your gunsmith a chunk of money.

    As you might have guessed, I vote for Savage (or a custom) for this application.
     
  8. eyeballjr

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    Don't think you can go wrong with either a Sendero or a Savage. I have owned both and they where both shooters. My current Sendero will shoot sub .75 with Factory Remington ammo. Have not had the chance to reload for it yet.
     
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    My experience has been very different from others with the Senderos. I've seen 1 out of 7 shoot sub MOA with only a bedding job. Most are closer to 1.5 or 2 MOA.

    Try to find a used Sendero for $700 to $800. Have a gunsmith put a Krieger or Hart barrel on it. You'll have a much nicer rifle than a factory Sendero for not too much more $$$.
     
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    From what I've seen it has been 1 out of 3 or 1 out of 4 Senderos that shot well without gunsmith "services". There is no argument that a Sendero can be turned into a shooter. The question is whether that is the wisest plan when most Savages shoot well out of the box. The best arguments I see for the Sendero would be; if a person was set on a chambering that was available in the Sendero but not in a Savage, or if a person found a used one for a great price.

    Perhaps someone should forward this thread to Remington to let their marketing people know that lack of "expected accuracy" is costing them sales.
     
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    Sendero
     
  12. MHO

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    Cross, Thanks a lot for your advice. Its greatly appreciated. MHOI
     
  13. MHO

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    From what I've seen and the feel of these two rifles. I think I am leaning towards the Savage 111 LRH. Thanks MHO
     
  14. angus-5024

    angus-5024 Well-Known Member

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    I havent had a remington or savage (higher end of course) cross my hands that couldnt shoot under 1MOA with carefull handloads, barrel channel relief (almost always), and a good pillar bed job. Mind you, I havent had as many rifles as alot of other members. I would say get what feels best in your hands. I would try to get something with a good stock though.