Remington 770

Discussion in 'The Basics, Starting Out' started by Marshall, Apr 14, 2008.

  1. Marshall

    Marshall Member

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    Well I guess I'm just getting into long range hunting, just over the weekend. I've just acquired the 3 disc DVD "How to Shoot Beyond Belief." I'm 2 or 3 hours into it, is the other 8 worth the watch?

    So down to business: I own, right now, a Remington 770 in the 30-06. There isn't any modifications done. It's hard to ask the right questions, I haven't yet educated myself which questions to ask. I have read some articles on the main page and I've read some terms like "free floating barrel," "MOA," "POI," and "bedding the rifle" and I'm unsure what they're referring to (apart from the free floated barrel, I've read up on that). I've looked around here and Google and I guess my main question is: Where can I find these definitions? and Is my current rifle a good starting rifle?

    Sorry for being so bland, any help or information is much appreciated.

    Thanks!
     
  2. dskd

    dskd Well-Known Member

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    you spent the $$ watch the dvd as free floating barrel," "MOA," and "bedding the rifle" are all on there

    as for poa its on here http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f26/marksmanship-basics-natural-point-aim-23989/

    as well as 7 other topics to read in the The Basics, Starting Out just above your post

    if you not shore after that ask what your not shore about and im shore someone can help
     

  3. Marshall

    Marshall Member

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    Well from the sticky's listed, they're really just explanations of the shot. I can shoot.. 100 yards. Although, I've never attempted anything longer than 100 yards. I just wondered whether my current rifle would be good enough to do these long range targets, or if I should use another.
     
  4. jmason

    jmason Well-Known Member

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    You have to start some where.... Use what you can afford. If that's just what you have on hand then use it, get used to it and based on that experiance you'll get the idea of what you want to move forward.
     
  5. Marshall

    Marshall Member

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    Well price isn't really a huge issue. I'm thinking about getting one of the rigs from GA Precision. Anyone know anything about them?
     
  6. WildcatB

    WildcatB Well-Known Member

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    It's all right here....

    I'm new too. I thought about taking a $1600 class before I found this site. Read all the "featured articles" on the home page. It's pretty much all there. And if you have a question, just ask....lots of very helpful people. I'm now shooting better than I ever could imagine.



    Midwayusa.com has a good definition section if you need to learned "terms" people use.

    MidwayUSA - GunTec Dictionary of Shooting, Reloading, Gunsmithing, Hunting & Outdoor Terms
     
  7. piutemike

    piutemike Well-Known Member

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    Your 30-06 will shoot long range. How accurate is it? Only you can answer that. What type optics are you using? Great scopes often cost as much or more than the gun. Shoot the gun you have and learn a little more, then you will have a better idea of what you need / want in a custom gun. Just because you have a custom rifle, that doesn't mean you can shoot an animal at 1000 yds. There is a little more to it than that.

    Mike
     
  8. dskd

    dskd Well-Known Member

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    what group size can you shoot at 100 and what scope do you have on the rifle ? and do you know the speed of the bullet ? and what bullet are you useing
     
  9. Marshall

    Marshall Member

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    I'm not sure of the grouping size.

    The scope is a Bushnell 3-9x40.

    I normally shoot Remington Core Lokt soft points at 180gr.

    As for the speed..

    100 yd -- 2348
    200 yd -- 2023
    300 yd -- 1727
    400 yd -- 1466
    500 yd -- 1251
     
  10. dskd

    dskd Well-Known Member

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    thats the speed of the box i take it
    shoot a 5 shoot group and tell us the size
    does your scope have target turrets or aiming points ?
     
  11. dskd

    dskd Well-Known Member

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    hears a drop table for you to try









    Sight Adjustments NeededTrajectory ValuesRANGEElevationWindageElevationWind DriftVelocityEnergy(yd)MOAMOA(in)(in)(fps)(ft-lb)00.000.00-1.50.027002913500.250.50-0.1-0.2258826771000.000.750.0-0.8248024571500.751.25-1.3-1.9237322502002.001.75-4.2-3.5226920582503.252.25-8.7-5.7216818793004.752.75-15.1-8.3207017133506.503.25-23.5-11.6197515584008.253.75-34.2-15.51882141545010.004.25-47.2-20.11792128350012.004.75-63.1-25.41705116155014.255.50-81.8-31.51621105060016.506.00-103.9-38.5154194965019.006.75-129.7-46.2146685870021.757.50-159.5-54.9139477675024.758.25-193.8-64.6132770480027.759.00-233.0-75.1126764185031.259.75-277.6-86.71211586
     
  12. dskd

    dskd Well-Known Member

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    that didnt work well now did it

    Sight Adjustments Needed Trajectory Values
    RANGE Elevation Windage Elevation Wind Drift Velocity Energy
    (yd) MOA MOA (in) (in) (fps) (ft-lb)
    0 0.00 0.00 -1.5 0.0 2700 2913
    50 0.25 0.50 -0.1 -0.2 2588 2677
    100 0.00 0.75 0.0 -0.8 2480 2457
    150 0.75 1.25 -1.3 -1.9 2373 2250
    200 2.00 1.75 -4.2 -3.5 2269 2058
    250 3.25 2.25 -8.7 -5.7 2168 1879
    300 4.75 2.75 -15.1 -8.3 2070 1713
    350 6.50 3.25 -23.5 -11.6 1975 1558
    400 8.25 3.75 -34.2 -15.5 1882 1415
    450 10.00 4.25 -47.2 -20.1 1792 1283
    500 12.00 4.75 -63.1 -25.4 1705 1161
    550 14.25 5.50 -81.8 -31.5 1621 1050
    600 16.50 6.00 -103.9 -38.5 1541 949
    650 19.00 6.75 -129.7 -46.2 1466 858
    700 21.75 7.50 -159.5 -54.9 1394 776
    750 24.75 8.25 -193.8 -64.6 1327 704
    800 27.75 9.00 -233.0 -75.1 1267 641
    850 31.25 9.75 -277.6 -86.7 1211 586
     
  13. Eaglet

    Eaglet Well-Known Member

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    Marshall,

    A MOA is an angular measurement which stands for “Minute Of Angle”.

    0ne MOA, at 100 yards happens to be very close to 1” inch.

    1 MOA = 0°.01’00” = 0.0166667°

    The vertical distance 1 MOA produces at 100 yards would be:

    Vertical Distance = 100 yards X Tan (0.0166667°) = 0.029089 yards.

    Converting yards to inches would give us: 0.029089 X 3 X 12 = 1.047”

    This value, 1 MOA = 1.047”, is the value ballistic programs use.

    Many scope turrets are calibrated in MOA’s and when your drop chart says that to shoot at 480 yards you need 6.0 MOA’S then you turn your turret to the number 6 and let it fly. We’re just talking for the vertical adjustment. This method is more precise than other methods that use turrets having distances on them instead of MOA’s. Good luck to you!
     
  14. trebark

    trebark Well-Known Member

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    Marshall:
    You're in a good place with a good starting point. The rifle you have is a great base from which to start. My recommendation for you would be to read, read, read. Then read some more. After you're done reading, take what you've learned to the range and shoot, shoot, shoot.

    From your reading you will eventually learn the definition of all the terms.

    From your shooting you will learn everything about your gun and cartridge. From that you will begin to have opinions of what you want or don't want, what you like and don't like.

    From all this, you will be able to ask more precise questions and get more precise answers.

    So that's my general answer. For something more specific for you, I have several recommendations for your current rifle.

    1. Get your barrel free floated. If you're a little bit handy, this is something you can do yourself (wouldn't take much to find instructions on this site or someplace on the internet). By free-floating your barrel you ensure that nothing is touching your barrel which can influence how it behaves when being shot and it's more likely it will behave the same from shot to shot (remember, consistency leads to accuracy)

    2. Have a gunsmith work on your trigger and have it set for 2.5 or 3 pounds of trigger pull. By reducing the trigger pull, you reduce the amount of tension (or influence) you have on the gun during the shot.

    3. While the gunsmith is working on your trigger, have him check your scope bases and rings - to ensure they're rock-solid in place. You would be surprised how many people think their rifle is terribly inaccurate and it's really just a loose scope ring or base.

    Hope that helps.