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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 886092" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>many moons ago I bought a 700ADL in .270 Winchester. Rifle shot 3/4" groups with Remington factory loads, and I was pretty happy. Later on I came into a new in the box 6mm heavy barreled rifle, and it shot groups close to .60". At the time it was shooting very well. Then I bought a .223 700VS years later. It was a rock solid 4.25" gun with hand loads. Build quality sucked on a good day. But I thought it was just one bad apple out of many good ones. Later I learned that I had joined the masses with rotten apples. My dealer (a pretty reputable bunch said it was just the end user, but soon changed their minds, when I shot better than they could. Pulling other new ones off the shelf, and looking them over it seemed like they were constantly returning them be fore being sold. The dealer almost quit carrying Remington's due to customer complaints. Just prior to that I bought my first Weatherby. A Vanguard in 30-06, and it shot 3/4" groups with Remington 150 grain core locks. But most of all it came with a proof target. Later I buy another, and it shot the same (25-06) or better. Even later I buy a Winchester heavy barrel mod. 70 in .223. It was a rock solid 2.5" gun! Got rid of it as fast as I could! Even later I buy a mod 70 in 22-250, and it was not much better, but I liked the stock better than either of the others. I built a 6BR off the action. This rifle is a solid .33" shooter. (a better operator might get another .100" out of the group size). While all this is going on, I buy three Savage rifles in 22-250. The worst one shot .30" groups and the best one was a solid low twos shooter. Did nothing to any of them, other than mounting a scope. The middle rifle started loosing it's throat after about 1200 rounds, so I did a barrel set back with a new chamber. Groups were only slightly better, but lost most fliers. Looking back, I think most work was a moote point, and maybe should have shot it another five hundred rounds. But it was also a learning experience just like the .223 Remington. It now shoots mid fours with a reworked factory barrel and a lot of elbow grease. The average guy will never want to invest that much time and effort into the cause. I'm stubborn! </p><p> gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 886092, member: 25383"] many moons ago I bought a 700ADL in .270 Winchester. Rifle shot 3/4" groups with Remington factory loads, and I was pretty happy. Later on I came into a new in the box 6mm heavy barreled rifle, and it shot groups close to .60". At the time it was shooting very well. Then I bought a .223 700VS years later. It was a rock solid 4.25" gun with hand loads. Build quality sucked on a good day. But I thought it was just one bad apple out of many good ones. Later I learned that I had joined the masses with rotten apples. My dealer (a pretty reputable bunch said it was just the end user, but soon changed their minds, when I shot better than they could. Pulling other new ones off the shelf, and looking them over it seemed like they were constantly returning them be fore being sold. The dealer almost quit carrying Remington's due to customer complaints. Just prior to that I bought my first Weatherby. A Vanguard in 30-06, and it shot 3/4" groups with Remington 150 grain core locks. But most of all it came with a proof target. Later I buy another, and it shot the same (25-06) or better. Even later I buy a Winchester heavy barrel mod. 70 in .223. It was a rock solid 2.5" gun! Got rid of it as fast as I could! Even later I buy a mod 70 in 22-250, and it was not much better, but I liked the stock better than either of the others. I built a 6BR off the action. This rifle is a solid .33" shooter. (a better operator might get another .100" out of the group size). While all this is going on, I buy three Savage rifles in 22-250. The worst one shot .30" groups and the best one was a solid low twos shooter. Did nothing to any of them, other than mounting a scope. The middle rifle started loosing it's throat after about 1200 rounds, so I did a barrel set back with a new chamber. Groups were only slightly better, but lost most fliers. Looking back, I think most work was a moote point, and maybe should have shot it another five hundred rounds. But it was also a learning experience just like the .223 Remington. It now shoots mid fours with a reworked factory barrel and a lot of elbow grease. The average guy will never want to invest that much time and effort into the cause. I'm stubborn! gary [/QUOTE]
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