Remington 700 or Savage 11/111?

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by 17HMR, Apr 26, 2012.

  1. 17HMR

    17HMR New Member

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    Hello,
    This is my first post, and i am glad to be on the forums. Right now i own a 17HMR, but i would like to do some longer range shooting, where I live I will be shooting at max about 500 yards. I would like to get a Remington 700 chambered in .270 Win, but the Remington 700s' that i have seen on their site that are in .270 have normal field barrels, but I would like to get a rifle that has a nice bull barrel on it. Should I consider switching to .308? Most of my shooting is target shooting, but I want the round to be able to take deer out to 400 yards without a problem. I was seriously considering getting a Savage 11/111 in .270 but read a discussion about a rifle of the same model in .300 that was sour, and people saying that as of late Savage has been lowering their standards. Bottom line is I want as much accuracy from whatever rifle I get.
     
  2. JackinSD

    JackinSD Well-Known Member

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    On the average, Out of the box you still won't beat a Savage.
     

  3. MHO

    MHO Well-Known Member

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    Another vote for the savage.
     
  4. barnesuser28

    barnesuser28 Well-Known Member

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    savage
     
  5. T3-OleMan

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    cowboy Well-Known Member

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    Go Savage and I'd put in a vote for a .308 versus a .270
     
  7. 17HMR

    17HMR New Member

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    Thanks for the input, I had always envisioned the remington 700 as the standard of accuracy.
     
  8. jpd676

    jpd676 Well-Known Member

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    I was a die hard Remington 700 guy but have switched to Savage all the way. I still like my Remingtons but anything new I buy will be a Savage. You can get a lemon from anyone but Savage is the best, most accurate bang for the buck---in my opinion.
     
  9. Greyfox

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    Go for the Savage. I know of a half a dozen bought over the past year at the club I belong to and they are all excellent shooters with no issues. I have bought two myself, including a LRH. My most recent, purchased a few months ago, a LRP in 260 had very good workmanship and accuracy. Either cartridge would serve your purpose. If you do not hand load, I'd go with the 308.
     
  10. green 788

    green 788 Well-Known Member

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    The Savage accuracy advantages are numerous...

    1. Button rifled barrels are more consistent with less "issues" than hammer forged barrels (like Remington and pretty much everyone else uses).

    2. Shorter span between the action screws limits torquing of the receiver.

    3. Shorter lock time (the time from which the trigger sear breaks till primer ignites).

    4. Toggle type bolt lugs do not need to be lapped, they engage evenly by nature.

    5. Barrel nut design allows for closer indexing of barrel to action, and tight chambers (another accuracy advantage).

    6. The new Accu-trigger can be set to break at under 2 pounds in most cases, with no creep at all.

    7. With all else being equal, they cost less. :)
     
  11. Trickymissfit

    Trickymissfit Well-Known Member

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  12. emn83

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    Savage. I love mine, and I can easily do all the work on it
     
  13. Jinx-)

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    I'll say go with Savage and if doesn't shoot good, you can fix it yourself for most of the parts, setting headspace on 700 action could be more challenging. As far accutriger if its not target accutriger keep it if its target do not use its lowest settings it doesn't work, its only good for 3 - 2.5 lb pull otherwise safety locks up before you can pull its trigger, as far as stock if its not HS Precision then you don't want it, so you might have to change it to something rigid like B&C, Choate, HS, Hogue or laminate there are many options still you would skim bed any of them, same goes for REM 700, their synthetic stock just plain crap. Anyhow from my personal experiences with Savage and Remington I had better luck with 700 as far as accuracy goes right out-of the box and freeloating its barrel improved it even more. With its original synthetic stock which I bedded accuracy improved from 1 to .25 MOA, later I switch its stock to B&C but the accuracy remained the same... The last 2 Savage rifles I bought one their Target series another Varmint, but both with target action shot 1.5+ MOA using handloads I was developing for them, with factory ammo it was like 2.5+" @100 yards... After I changed barrels and bedded their stock their accuracy improved to .5 - .25 MOA... So good luck in your quest ;-)
     
  14. green 788

    green 788 Well-Known Member

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    gary, thanks for the comments... good stuff there. :)

    I love the Remington 788 (see my screen name)... I wish we could still get new ones. :)