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<blockquote data-quote="Buano" data-source="post: 445939" data-attributes="member: 21641"><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I have "adopted" a family who over the last few years have gotten heavily into shooting & hunting. Turning them from idiots shooting up the woods into responsible hunters has been challenging but interesting. I have been making progress but sometimes the progress has been slow since the two teenagers already know all they need to know. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">As I reload they eventually asked me to reload some .270 WSM shells for them. I said OK if they paid for the components. Instead of paying for the components I had they showed up with the components the salesman told them to use. They weren't optimal, but I did find recommended load data for that combination so I said I would load about 20 at minimum recommended powder charge so they could check for accuracy and signs of excess pressure. I TRIED to explain why this was important & how it's only safe to gradually work up to maximum loads. They nodded & went off to shoot their new shells.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">I got a call that these "duds" hit the 100 yard target about 4" lower than the factory loads they had been using — and this wasn't acceptable. They wanted shells with AT LEAST the maximum recommended load! I again explained why we had to gradually work up towards maximum recommended to see what the maximum is for this rifle unless we wanted to risk blowing up a rifle in someone's face. They said they understood.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Next time I saw the boys they were talking about buying their own reloading equipment "so they could load to maximum". I pulled their dad aside & BLUNTLY explained that these boys were in no way ready to safely reload ammunition. Next time I talked to the family they had just been to Bass Pro & had been looking at reloading equipment.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Since they wouldn't accept my safety argument I pitched economics: I itemized & priced all the reloading equipment I have & pointed out how much ammunition they would have to reload to justify that cost. Then I offered to reload occasionally for them.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Hopefully, this way they won't be blowing up a gun with something they shouldn't have put into it.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Sometimes it's very hard to keep idiots from doing something STUPID — but I'm trying!! It is however very frustrating knowing <strong>we can't cure stupid!</strong></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buano, post: 445939, member: 21641"] [SIZE="4"]I have "adopted" a family who over the last few years have gotten heavily into shooting & hunting. Turning them from idiots shooting up the woods into responsible hunters has been challenging but interesting. I have been making progress but sometimes the progress has been slow since the two teenagers already know all they need to know. As I reload they eventually asked me to reload some .270 WSM shells for them. I said OK if they paid for the components. Instead of paying for the components I had they showed up with the components the salesman told them to use. They weren't optimal, but I did find recommended load data for that combination so I said I would load about 20 at minimum recommended powder charge so they could check for accuracy and signs of excess pressure. I TRIED to explain why this was important & how it's only safe to gradually work up to maximum loads. They nodded & went off to shoot their new shells. I got a call that these "duds" hit the 100 yard target about 4" lower than the factory loads they had been using — and this wasn't acceptable. They wanted shells with AT LEAST the maximum recommended load! I again explained why we had to gradually work up towards maximum recommended to see what the maximum is for this rifle unless we wanted to risk blowing up a rifle in someone's face. They said they understood. Next time I saw the boys they were talking about buying their own reloading equipment "so they could load to maximum". I pulled their dad aside & BLUNTLY explained that these boys were in no way ready to safely reload ammunition. Next time I talked to the family they had just been to Bass Pro & had been looking at reloading equipment. Since they wouldn't accept my safety argument I pitched economics: I itemized & priced all the reloading equipment I have & pointed out how much ammunition they would have to reload to justify that cost. Then I offered to reload occasionally for them. Hopefully, this way they won't be blowing up a gun with something they shouldn't have put into it. Sometimes it's very hard to keep idiots from doing something STUPID — but I'm trying!! It is however very frustrating knowing [B]we can't cure stupid![/B][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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