Recommended Scope for Long-range .300 Win Mag use...

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by ASmisson, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. ASmisson

    ASmisson Member

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    I was leaning towards a Bushnell Elite 6500 MilDot but I'd like to get yall's opinion. What do yall like and use and if you planned on doing some longe-range hunting as well as short-range hunting depending on the terrain and area you're in, what would you carry??
     
  2. MN Hunter

    MN Hunter Well-Known Member

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    I have a zeis 4.5x14x44 with the rapid z-800 reticule on my Rem 700 Sendero 300 win mag. I would not hesitate to buy another one.

    I was at the range last weekend - my buddy has a Bushnell Elite 6500 with the DOA reticule mounted on his .338 win mag. Scope is brand new - he has a problem with the adjustments. The clicks are 1/4 moa. When he makes a move it is actually moving up to a full one to two moa. He was going to call them this week. I have not hear from him yet as to the outcome. I'm sure they will be sending him a new one.
     

  3. nathank

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    Look into the falcon line of optics they have the menace in 2.5-14x44 in ffp and a 5.5-25x50 in ffp and the also have a 4-18x56 in a sfp I have read a lot of good things about this scope and snipers hide has some good reviews. I bought a 5.5-25x50 and it loogs and feela great but I havnt mounted it yet
     
  4. bryceh12321

    bryceh12321 Well-Known Member

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    I too was looking at the Bushnell Elite line of optics, but then I came across Sightron. Take a look at the Sightron SIII. I got mine in 6-24 with mil-dot and target turrets.

    And before u buy any scope take a look at Arcadian Sales. I couldn't believe they beat about everyone else's price by 100$
     
  5. Capt Kurt

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    Burris black diamond 6x24x50. This scope gives you high end features, side parallax adjustment, 30mm body, nitrogen filled, bright & clear optics, 3" sun shade, target knobs, ballistic mill dot reticle, for far less $ then your best scopes. These scopes are on all my rifles with unparalleled performance. Will hold its zero to the most powerful of recoils. Best of all it is made in the u.s. (colorado) with a life time warranty. Capt kurt
     
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  6. fireroad

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    +1 on the Bushnell. Sounds like you buddy got a dud, which is bound to happen to everyone once in their life. +2 on the Sightron S111. If the objectives are a little too large for you, the Sightron Big Sky may be the ticket. I just got mine in yesterday, and will post a review shortly (ordered from Arcadian). The Zeiss are awesome, but to get what I wanted was up near the $1000 range. They are excellent scopes, but a bit pricey.
     
  7. trebark

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    The key is balancing features with $$. For a rifle that will be engaging targets/game from "up close and personal" to waaaaaay over there, you will need a variable power scope with magnification on the low-end of 4 to 6. For shooting waaaaay over there you will want 14+. You will also want target/tactical turrets. Parallax/focus adjustment I would consider optional.

    In terms of scopes that fit the bill...Bushnell 6500 certainly does. Personally I had a 3200 10x40 on a rifle and it performed well.

    http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f53/my-308-1k-rifle-evolution-continues-43510/

    I've also known guys with 4200 and 6500s. They all performed well and I would recommend them to you. The other options enumerated in other posts are also good recommendations.

    This brings me back to my initial point...balancing features/performance with $$. (you will notice in the write-up of my rifle that I have recently upgraded to Luepold MK4)
     
  8. ASmisson

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    My only concern is that the 6500 wont have enough adjustment for Elevation at further ranges. I've read some posts about it not being enough to compensate past 800 yards.
     
  9. fireroad

    fireroad Well-Known Member

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    I haven't shot out to 1k with mine yet, but the 78 MOA should get you out there with the right bases. It's not as impressive as Luppy's 115 on the VX-3 or Mark 4, but the glass more than makes up for it.

    If you can handle 80 MOA and want a one in tube, this is my new favorite (and it has a rebate).

    Sightron Riflescopes / Binoculars / Sighting Scopes product pages. SII Series - Big Sky - SIIB SS 4.5-14x44 MD
     
  10. Nimrod

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    My .300 WM has a Leupold Vari-x III 6.5-20 with target knobs, it currently has a 1/8 min. dot but I am strongly considering a reticle change.

    Bob
     
  11. ASmisson

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    Thanks for the input, Ill probably get a 6500.

    I have another question about the scope, well scopes in general with resettable zeroes and adjustments. Exactly how does "dialing-in" range work? I have to know how much the bullet is going to drop at the range Im planning to shoot, and then make the proper adjustment according to the 1/4 click MoA adjustment?

    Also, Im pretty new to this =], but Im doin my best to learn. I've done a lot of shooting in the military but never with a High-powered rifle with a nice scope. From what Ive been reading Im inferring that I need to buy some sort of base or rings for the scope as well?
     
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  12. trebark

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    In order to 'dial for the distance' you will need to know the amount of drop your bullet has at a given distance, then adjust your scope 'up' the appropriate amount in order to compensate. The Bushnell adjusts in minutes-of-angle (moa). Most software programs will give you the adjustment in moa. It's not too complicated. Doping the wind...now that gets complicated.

    Yes, you will need bases and rings to mount your scope on your rifle. Given the long distance you want to shoot, you will want to look at canted bases. That is to say a base where the rear of the base is taller than the front. With your scope canted, it will give you more adjustment 'up' than if it were mounted level.

    The alternative to a canted base is to use Burris Signature Rings. They employ inserts of varying thickness in order to cant the scope.

    You can find info on Burris bases and rings here: Burris Signature Rings
     
  13. ASmisson

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    Thanks again for your input, I appreciate it. Ive got the scope picked out, and now I need to pick the rings. Which would you recommend??
     
  14. trebark

    trebark Well-Known Member

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    I like all of the Burris Signature Rings. What's great about them is that they are rock solid, you can cant (tilt) your scope with the plastic inserts and because of the inserts, they don't leave any marks on your scope. So if you ever want to sell the scope later, there won't be any ring marks.

    Now, of the various Burris Signature Rings which ones do I like? Personally, I like the double dovetail. The bases for them are small and dovetail is rock-solid and tight. Also, they have a very clean look. I have them on two of my rifles and will soon be on a third rifle of mine....

    http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f53/my-280-updated-32771/

    http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f53/my-308-1k-rifle-evolution-continues-43510/

    Now to throw in one more wrinkle for you...you will notice that scope rings come in various heights. Because scopes have different size front objectives (generally speaking 40mm or 50mm) you need a different height ring based on the size of that front objective. To find what the height you need, call Burris and talk to their technical people. Tell them the scope you have, the size of your objective, the rifle and the barrel contour. From that, they should be able to determine the proper height. If your situation is on the cusp of one height and another, they will recommend the higher ring. I know this, because that's what I did when I was mounting my Leupold MK4 on my 308. Once I got the rings, I quickly determined that I could use the next lower ring (you want to mount your scope as low as possible). So I ordered the lower rings and all is good now.
     
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