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<blockquote data-quote="BrentM" data-source="post: 764459" data-attributes="member: 61747"><p>If you are refering to this area the option of a cow or spike is not likely to happen. Most units are branch antlered only. The unfortunate thing is that no hunts are garuntee'd on public land. The big ranches usually can go that route in the south but those hunts are usually well into the 5 digits. </p><p> </p><p>We typically have gone 75% hunter success with 100% shot opportunity. If you look at the Idaho statistics DIY hunters usually have 10-15% success rates. Guided/outfitted hunts usually run into the 50% mark. If you are looking at 350 plus it is going to be quite challenging, but doable. Typically here, if you pass on a 330 class bull that is not good. I passed on 22 bulls last year during archery season in an attempt to take one of the 3 bulls I found all over 360. I came home empty handed. : ) It was worth it. Of the hunters in our group we ran 100% shot opportunity. Good statistics for sure. </p><p> </p><p>Back to the question, will paying more help......usually. If the outfitter and hunter are very clear on the desire the outfitter can go to 2 or 3 guides to 1 hunter etc. For example on the expensive hunts I might just be spotter and looking for quality animals and the outfitter is guiding the hunter. We team up to cover country and find a good bull. That extra guide costs the outfitter about 700-1000 per week. </p><p> </p><p>BTW- no decent outfitter is going to ever consider a spike or cow a shot opportunity or part of the equation you are looking for. EVER.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrentM, post: 764459, member: 61747"] If you are refering to this area the option of a cow or spike is not likely to happen. Most units are branch antlered only. The unfortunate thing is that no hunts are garuntee'd on public land. The big ranches usually can go that route in the south but those hunts are usually well into the 5 digits. We typically have gone 75% hunter success with 100% shot opportunity. If you look at the Idaho statistics DIY hunters usually have 10-15% success rates. Guided/outfitted hunts usually run into the 50% mark. If you are looking at 350 plus it is going to be quite challenging, but doable. Typically here, if you pass on a 330 class bull that is not good. I passed on 22 bulls last year during archery season in an attempt to take one of the 3 bulls I found all over 360. I came home empty handed. : ) It was worth it. Of the hunters in our group we ran 100% shot opportunity. Good statistics for sure. Back to the question, will paying more help......usually. If the outfitter and hunter are very clear on the desire the outfitter can go to 2 or 3 guides to 1 hunter etc. For example on the expensive hunts I might just be spotter and looking for quality animals and the outfitter is guiding the hunter. We team up to cover country and find a good bull. That extra guide costs the outfitter about 700-1000 per week. BTW- no decent outfitter is going to ever consider a spike or cow a shot opportunity or part of the equation you are looking for. EVER. [/QUOTE]
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