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Recoil, what recoil?
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<blockquote data-quote="mdk777" data-source="post: 1605234" data-attributes="member: 96764"><p>yeah, just a failure in communication on terms and agreed definitions.</p><p>Hence why the previous poster mentioned some of the science and technical terms that people who study this agree on.</p><p></p><p>The energy transferred to your body is the same.</p><p>How your body handles it varies on many factors.</p><p></p><p>You are describing those variables, not the actual recoil itself.</p><p></p><p>The rifle recoil energy remains the same.</p><p></p><p>So, you can make small adjustments</p><p>1.recoil pad</p><p>2. how you hold the rifle (loose, tight, or just right)</p><p>3 how much you absorb directly vs expand the absorption over time.</p><p></p><p>etc. etc. etc.</p><p></p><p>long story short, these adaptations do nothing in the long term....shooting 50 or 100 rounds, your body is going to absorb a large amount of punishment.</p><p></p><p>Muzzle brake can simply eliminate 85% of the energy so you do not need to absorb it, no matter how you have chosen to absorb it.</p><p></p><p>A good "silencer" can absorb 50%</p><p></p><p>Hence, in the grand scheme of things....this is the point that has been made.</p><p></p><p>climbing a ladder carrying 80# roofing shingles is going to do you damage, no matter how good you are at it and how much you know how to do it "right"</p><p></p><p>Hence, we don't do it anymore (any building company USA wanting to limit their liability exposure) we use cranes, or lifts to place.</p><p></p><p>It is just physics.</p><p>Nature does not care if you understand or agree.</p><p></p><p>PS, people have an amazing ability to deny their mortality...they don't want to think that wear and tear is cumulative, that your body wears down...hence why it is so hard to get people to consistently wear hearing protection.</p><p></p><p>Oh this 1/2 hour mowing the lawn won't do any lasting damage.</p><p>The loud music is the point of the rock concert...it won't hurt my hearing in the long run...etc. etc. etc.</p><p></p><p>As the saying goes, you do you...</p><p>but I will avoid high recoil for the same reason I wear hearing protection.</p><p>We have the technology...there is no reason to take the abuse anymore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mdk777, post: 1605234, member: 96764"] yeah, just a failure in communication on terms and agreed definitions. Hence why the previous poster mentioned some of the science and technical terms that people who study this agree on. The energy transferred to your body is the same. How your body handles it varies on many factors. You are describing those variables, not the actual recoil itself. The rifle recoil energy remains the same. So, you can make small adjustments 1.recoil pad 2. how you hold the rifle (loose, tight, or just right) 3 how much you absorb directly vs expand the absorption over time. etc. etc. etc. long story short, these adaptations do nothing in the long term....shooting 50 or 100 rounds, your body is going to absorb a large amount of punishment. Muzzle brake can simply eliminate 85% of the energy so you do not need to absorb it, no matter how you have chosen to absorb it. A good "silencer" can absorb 50% Hence, in the grand scheme of things....this is the point that has been made. climbing a ladder carrying 80# roofing shingles is going to do you damage, no matter how good you are at it and how much you know how to do it "right" Hence, we don't do it anymore (any building company USA wanting to limit their liability exposure) we use cranes, or lifts to place. It is just physics. Nature does not care if you understand or agree. PS, people have an amazing ability to deny their mortality...they don't want to think that wear and tear is cumulative, that your body wears down...hence why it is so hard to get people to consistently wear hearing protection. Oh this 1/2 hour mowing the lawn won't do any lasting damage. The loud music is the point of the rock concert...it won't hurt my hearing in the long run...etc. etc. etc. As the saying goes, you do you... but I will avoid high recoil for the same reason I wear hearing protection. We have the technology...there is no reason to take the abuse anymore. [/QUOTE]
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