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rebarrel my remington or try a savage 111 lrh?
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<blockquote data-quote="cfvickers" data-source="post: 415613" data-attributes="member: 25488"><p>I agree with rebarreling the 700, but to say it will shoot so much better than the LRH is uneducated. Mine has been shooting groups regularly in the .2's and .3's. Short of competition, not much you can't do with that, and few rifles of any quality shoot better than that. I just like the fit and finish of the 700 and for the cost of the LRH you can get a very nice barrel installed and have a rifle you cannot get off the shelf.</p><p></p><p>Fitch, Can I ask where the layman with a rifle that feels good at his shoulder, weighs about what he wants it to, and shoots better than all but one of the several custom rifles he has loaded for, is going to notice "that much difference" I simply think 700s are prettier, my LRH is not, but the groups it shoots are gorgeous. It all depends on what you are after. If you want a nice rifle with a lot of features you would usually only find on a custom, and are far more concerned with how it shoots, the LRH is a good choice. If you want pretty it is completely out of the question. I am not saying there are no cons, but when building a hunting rifle, I have worked up loads f0r quite a few customs that cost 3,000 + that would not shoot with this rifle. Now how did hand lapping help these rifles, they are still 1/2-3/4 inch guns, which is respectable by any measure in a hunting weight rifle. You mention all of these things necessary to get a good shooting rifle, and a few years ago that was true, I just vehemently disagree now. If you have to spend that much on a factory rifle to make it shoot then you should get another gun. because it isn't necessary with them all. There is a 319.00 XL7 that shoots inside 3/4 with just about anything in my safe. Has a 70.00 scope on it. again, it isn't pretty, but function and accuracy is perfect. </p><p></p><p>There is a whole lot of personal preference in making the choice being discussed here. I would never begrudge anyones preference, we are all different, custom rifles are wonderful things, but that doesn't make them really any "better" from a functionality and accuracy standpoint. It is a matter of what you can spend, what you want to spend, and what you are really looking for in your rifle. I would encourage anyone to do what feels right and get what they are able. I greatly admire most custom rifles, but when on a budget, they aren't necessary. target rifles are a whole different story as 1000ths of an inch can be all the difference. And if thousandths make the difference to you in a hunting rifle, Spend the money, I will still think it is a very cool rifle, and if I had the money I would spend it. </p><p></p><p>Bottom line, I don't want to come across like I think you are altogether wrong, but it seems like the guy is making a choice based on what he will be getting for his money. With a custom, if you cannot go all out, you could be making a mistake. But you may hit it right the first time. If you get it wrong, then where are you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cfvickers, post: 415613, member: 25488"] I agree with rebarreling the 700, but to say it will shoot so much better than the LRH is uneducated. Mine has been shooting groups regularly in the .2's and .3's. Short of competition, not much you can't do with that, and few rifles of any quality shoot better than that. I just like the fit and finish of the 700 and for the cost of the LRH you can get a very nice barrel installed and have a rifle you cannot get off the shelf. Fitch, Can I ask where the layman with a rifle that feels good at his shoulder, weighs about what he wants it to, and shoots better than all but one of the several custom rifles he has loaded for, is going to notice "that much difference" I simply think 700s are prettier, my LRH is not, but the groups it shoots are gorgeous. It all depends on what you are after. If you want a nice rifle with a lot of features you would usually only find on a custom, and are far more concerned with how it shoots, the LRH is a good choice. If you want pretty it is completely out of the question. I am not saying there are no cons, but when building a hunting rifle, I have worked up loads f0r quite a few customs that cost 3,000 + that would not shoot with this rifle. Now how did hand lapping help these rifles, they are still 1/2-3/4 inch guns, which is respectable by any measure in a hunting weight rifle. You mention all of these things necessary to get a good shooting rifle, and a few years ago that was true, I just vehemently disagree now. If you have to spend that much on a factory rifle to make it shoot then you should get another gun. because it isn't necessary with them all. There is a 319.00 XL7 that shoots inside 3/4 with just about anything in my safe. Has a 70.00 scope on it. again, it isn't pretty, but function and accuracy is perfect. There is a whole lot of personal preference in making the choice being discussed here. I would never begrudge anyones preference, we are all different, custom rifles are wonderful things, but that doesn't make them really any "better" from a functionality and accuracy standpoint. It is a matter of what you can spend, what you want to spend, and what you are really looking for in your rifle. I would encourage anyone to do what feels right and get what they are able. I greatly admire most custom rifles, but when on a budget, they aren't necessary. target rifles are a whole different story as 1000ths of an inch can be all the difference. And if thousandths make the difference to you in a hunting rifle, Spend the money, I will still think it is a very cool rifle, and if I had the money I would spend it. Bottom line, I don't want to come across like I think you are altogether wrong, but it seems like the guy is making a choice based on what he will be getting for his money. With a custom, if you cannot go all out, you could be making a mistake. But you may hit it right the first time. If you get it wrong, then where are you. [/QUOTE]
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