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Real Poor Shooter w/factory ammo, how much can I really expect?
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<blockquote data-quote="timeless61" data-source="post: 417356" data-attributes="member: 13530"><p>I have a remington stock 30-06 rifle, nothing done to it, factory it was lucky to shoot 2 moa, now with handloads i am around .5-.75 moa groups.</p><p></p><p>i also had a sendero in 300 rum only tried factory core lokt, and sciroccos, and could not get 2 anywhere near each other all over a just normal sheet of paper... then used a load with ballistic tips that seems to work in every gun we shoot it in, and was getting .5 moa then, i was having brass issues, and thought the chamber was messed up, which it was and they replaced it for free even tough it was out of warranty, so their cs was good but they had lost my confidence with the above 2 guns needing handloads</p><p></p><p>which on another note, took me to savage i had heard good things regarding accuracy, and on the first day with the gun, first 5 shots out of it, 2 different factory loads 3 different shooters, all made the same hole slightly bigger, i was sold, on that savage anyway, load development gets boring for it, i barely have to shoot for groups, just look for pressure signs and ES, everything just shoots the same with just about any bullet and powder i have used, although rl 17 was all over the place ES wise.</p><p></p><p>sorry for rambling just wanted to share my experience</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="timeless61, post: 417356, member: 13530"] I have a remington stock 30-06 rifle, nothing done to it, factory it was lucky to shoot 2 moa, now with handloads i am around .5-.75 moa groups. i also had a sendero in 300 rum only tried factory core lokt, and sciroccos, and could not get 2 anywhere near each other all over a just normal sheet of paper... then used a load with ballistic tips that seems to work in every gun we shoot it in, and was getting .5 moa then, i was having brass issues, and thought the chamber was messed up, which it was and they replaced it for free even tough it was out of warranty, so their cs was good but they had lost my confidence with the above 2 guns needing handloads which on another note, took me to savage i had heard good things regarding accuracy, and on the first day with the gun, first 5 shots out of it, 2 different factory loads 3 different shooters, all made the same hole slightly bigger, i was sold, on that savage anyway, load development gets boring for it, i barely have to shoot for groups, just look for pressure signs and ES, everything just shoots the same with just about any bullet and powder i have used, although rl 17 was all over the place ES wise. sorry for rambling just wanted to share my experience [/QUOTE]
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