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<blockquote data-quote="Bart B" data-source="post: 512841" data-attributes="member: 5302"><p>No, I'm talking about fired case sizing dies. Not about bullet seating dies.</p><p>My old RCBS standard bullet seating dies put bullets in .308 Win. cases just as straight as my old Wilson chamber type seating die. Those bullets are in virtual perfect alignment with the case neck which happens with all seating dies.</p><p> If you're talking about seating dies, that may be true. I've never used a Redding or Forster seater except for a short test that showed they did pretty good.</p><p>Good point. </p><p>There are a few hundred (thousand?) top ranked long range rifle shooters around the world that disagree with this premise. Best example was when a few of us developed the load for Sierra's first Palma bullet then made several thousand rounds of it on two Dillon 1050 progressives. Metered powder charges with a 3/10ths grain spread, bullet runout up to 3/1000ths in new Winchester cases and Fed. 210M primers. After a few thousand rounds were shot in the first match using them, a few dozen folks from all over said it easily held 1/2 MOA at 600 yards. Their barrels had different chamber, bore and groove dimensions as well as different barrel contours. All on 5 or 6 different actions. Even a good lot of commercial match .308 Win. ammo would shoot inside 4 inches all day long in a variety of M1 and M14 match conditioned service rifles. Arsenal made lots of ammo used in international Palma competition is very accurate in virtually all rifle-barrel combinations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bart B, post: 512841, member: 5302"] No, I'm talking about fired case sizing dies. Not about bullet seating dies. My old RCBS standard bullet seating dies put bullets in .308 Win. cases just as straight as my old Wilson chamber type seating die. Those bullets are in virtual perfect alignment with the case neck which happens with all seating dies. If you're talking about seating dies, that may be true. I've never used a Redding or Forster seater except for a short test that showed they did pretty good. Good point. There are a few hundred (thousand?) top ranked long range rifle shooters around the world that disagree with this premise. Best example was when a few of us developed the load for Sierra's first Palma bullet then made several thousand rounds of it on two Dillon 1050 progressives. Metered powder charges with a 3/10ths grain spread, bullet runout up to 3/1000ths in new Winchester cases and Fed. 210M primers. After a few thousand rounds were shot in the first match using them, a few dozen folks from all over said it easily held 1/2 MOA at 600 yards. Their barrels had different chamber, bore and groove dimensions as well as different barrel contours. All on 5 or 6 different actions. Even a good lot of commercial match .308 Win. ammo would shoot inside 4 inches all day long in a variety of M1 and M14 match conditioned service rifles. Arsenal made lots of ammo used in international Palma competition is very accurate in virtually all rifle-barrel combinations. [/QUOTE]
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