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Quandry about a specialty pistol for deer
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<blockquote data-quote="esshup" data-source="post: 1181744" data-attributes="member: 11101"><p>Bottleneck cartridges ARE legal in a handgun. What you showed is an excerpt from the on-line regulations. If you dive further into what it legal, you will find out that there is no prohibition against bottleneck cartridges.</p><p> </p><p>Same as with centerfire rifles. They allow "some". </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">"Rifles with cartridges that fire a bullet of .357-inch diameter or larger, have a minimum case length of 1.16 inches, and have a maximum case length of 1.8 inches are legal to use only during the deer firearms and special antlerless seasons. Some cartridges legal for deer hunting include the .357 Magnum, .38-.40 Winchester, .41 Magnum, .41 Special, .44 Magnum, .44 Special, .44-.40 Winchester, .45 Colt, .454 Casull, .458 SOCOM, .475 Linebaugh, .480 Ruger, .50 Action Express, .500 S&W, .460 Smith & Wesson, .450 Bushmaster, and .50 Beowulf. Full metal jacketed bullets are illegal.</span></p><p><span style="color: black">Handguns, other than muzzleloading, must have a barrel at least 4 inches long and must fire a bullet of .243-inch diameter or larger. The handgun cartridge case, without the bullet, must be at least 1.16 inches long. Full metal-jacketed bullets are not permitted. The handgun must not be a rifle that has a barrel less than 18 inches or be designed or redesigned to be fired from the shoulder."</span></p><p> </p><p>What is legal in a rifle is a .25 WSSM case blown out to hold a .358" bullet. Because they don't specifically exclude bottleneck cartridges. </p><p> </p><p>For a pistol, it's the same thing. They do not specify the maximum length of the brass, or specifically say "Straight walled cartridges" which opens the door to all CF rifle cartridges and wildcats, providing they fire a bullet .243" and larger and the cartridge case is at least 1.16" minimum in length.</p><p> </p><p>There is a House Bill on it's way to the Governors desk right now that if signed, will allow some other specific rifles to be used on private ground only that might make this quandary moot if passed. While the 5 specific calibers in HB1231 aren't as far reaching as the pistol could be, its a start and I already own 3 of the 5. They are proposing to allow .243 Win., .30-.30 Win., .300 Win Mag, 30-06 Springfield and .308 Win. While the names behind the calibers isn't listed in the current version of the proposal, word from the authors is that they will be added before it reaches his desk.</p><p> </p><p><u><u><u><a href="http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2016/bills/house/1231#document-afa20d5e" target="_blank">House Bill 1231 - Deer hunting - Indiana General Assembly, 2016 Session</a></u></u></u></p><p> </p><p><u><u><u>You are absolutely correct about taking a previously registered rifle action and making a pistol out of it . Can't do it. But, like you did, you can register a previously unregistered action as a pistol and it would be legal. </u></u></u></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="esshup, post: 1181744, member: 11101"] Bottleneck cartridges ARE legal in a handgun. What you showed is an excerpt from the on-line regulations. If you dive further into what it legal, you will find out that there is no prohibition against bottleneck cartridges. Same as with centerfire rifles. They allow "some". [COLOR=black]"Rifles with cartridges that fire a bullet of .357-inch diameter or larger, have a minimum case length of 1.16 inches, and have a maximum case length of 1.8 inches are legal to use only during the deer firearms and special antlerless seasons. Some cartridges legal for deer hunting include the .357 Magnum, .38-.40 Winchester, .41 Magnum, .41 Special, .44 Magnum, .44 Special, .44-.40 Winchester, .45 Colt, .454 Casull, .458 SOCOM, .475 Linebaugh, .480 Ruger, .50 Action Express, .500 S&W, .460 Smith & Wesson, .450 Bushmaster, and .50 Beowulf. Full metal jacketed bullets are illegal.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Handguns, other than muzzleloading, must have a barrel at least 4 inches long and must fire a bullet of .243-inch diameter or larger. The handgun cartridge case, without the bullet, must be at least 1.16 inches long. Full metal-jacketed bullets are not permitted. The handgun must not be a rifle that has a barrel less than 18 inches or be designed or redesigned to be fired from the shoulder."[/COLOR] What is legal in a rifle is a .25 WSSM case blown out to hold a .358" bullet. Because they don't specifically exclude bottleneck cartridges. For a pistol, it's the same thing. They do not specify the maximum length of the brass, or specifically say "Straight walled cartridges" which opens the door to all CF rifle cartridges and wildcats, providing they fire a bullet .243" and larger and the cartridge case is at least 1.16" minimum in length. There is a House Bill on it's way to the Governors desk right now that if signed, will allow some other specific rifles to be used on private ground only that might make this quandary moot if passed. While the 5 specific calibers in HB1231 aren't as far reaching as the pistol could be, its a start and I already own 3 of the 5. They are proposing to allow .243 Win., .30-.30 Win., .300 Win Mag, 30-06 Springfield and .308 Win. While the names behind the calibers isn't listed in the current version of the proposal, word from the authors is that they will be added before it reaches his desk. [U][U][U][URL="http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2016/bills/house/1231#document-afa20d5e"]House Bill 1231 - Deer hunting - Indiana General Assembly, 2016 Session[/URL][/U][/U][/U] [U][U][U][/U][/U][/U] [U][U][U]You are absolutely correct about taking a previously registered rifle action and making a pistol out of it . Can't do it. But, like you did, you can register a previously unregistered action as a pistol and it would be legal. [/U][/U][/U] [/QUOTE]
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