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Quandry about a specialty pistol for deer
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<blockquote data-quote="esshup" data-source="post: 1178010" data-attributes="member: 11101"><p>Thanks guys and thank you Ernie. I do have a LR rifle, Kirby Allen built a 7mm Allen Magnum for me and it works great. Other than a lot of steel targets and rocks out past 1K, a cow elk at 705 and a coyote from a clean cold barrel at 867 is what it's taken so far. Unfortunately, here in Indiana it isn't legal to use for deer unless it's a depredation hunt, AND the biologist allows CF rifles to be used. </p><p> </p><p>engineer40:</p><p>The deer hunting regulations in Indiana are screwey. You can use any center fire rifle you want for varmints, up to and including .50 BMG. For deer? Not so fast partner. In a rifle? The bullet dia. must be ..357 or larger and the brass (cartridge) cannot be longer than 1.8". There is no stipulation on it having to be a straight wall cartridge. Look up .358 Hoosier.</p><p> </p><p>In a pistol? ANY cartridge is allowed, as long as it's .243 bullet dia. or larger and the brass is longer than 1.16" in length. If you have the hands and cajones large enough to shoot a .50 BMG in a pistol that isn't longer than 26" from stem to stern without the brake, it's legal. </p><p> </p><p>Yes, what is legal in a pistol is NOT legal in a rifle....... That is in the printed regulations. </p><p> </p><p>I have a Smokeless Savage Muzzleloader in .45 cal that is capable of taking a deer out to 400 yds if the conditions are right. In good conditions, it will shoot a 1/2 moa 3 shot group at 300 yds. It's pushing a .40 cal Barnes 195g bullet at 2850 fps. BUT, it has the bc of a brick, so it peters out pretty quickly. </p><p> </p><p>There are 2 farms that I can hunt, and both are like pool tables. One has an abandoned RR track that the "bed" roughly 10' higher than the fields. The fields are surrounded by woods, but there isn't much if any cover on the farm itself. The farm is approx. 1/2 mile wide, and 3 miles long, 3,200 acres. The other farm has the same scenario, i.e., not much cover in the farm itself, but is surrounded by woods. That farm is around 800 acres. So, the deer walk out to feed onto this pool table from the surrounding woods. </p><p> </p><p>Since the deer haven't been shot at with anything that has some legs, they feel safe 5-600+ yds away. With equipment that can reach out there, I can set up a small portable shooting bench inside a pop-up ground blind and cover a lot of area....... Last year many times the deer were 800+ yds away. With the right equipment and practice, I know that first shot hits on deer in the vitals would be easily accomplished. I have all the peripherals, rangefinder, exbal, etc., etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="esshup, post: 1178010, member: 11101"] Thanks guys and thank you Ernie. I do have a LR rifle, Kirby Allen built a 7mm Allen Magnum for me and it works great. Other than a lot of steel targets and rocks out past 1K, a cow elk at 705 and a coyote from a clean cold barrel at 867 is what it's taken so far. Unfortunately, here in Indiana it isn't legal to use for deer unless it's a depredation hunt, AND the biologist allows CF rifles to be used. engineer40: The deer hunting regulations in Indiana are screwey. You can use any center fire rifle you want for varmints, up to and including .50 BMG. For deer? Not so fast partner. In a rifle? The bullet dia. must be ..357 or larger and the brass (cartridge) cannot be longer than 1.8". There is no stipulation on it having to be a straight wall cartridge. Look up .358 Hoosier. In a pistol? ANY cartridge is allowed, as long as it's .243 bullet dia. or larger and the brass is longer than 1.16" in length. If you have the hands and cajones large enough to shoot a .50 BMG in a pistol that isn't longer than 26" from stem to stern without the brake, it's legal. Yes, what is legal in a pistol is NOT legal in a rifle....... That is in the printed regulations. I have a Smokeless Savage Muzzleloader in .45 cal that is capable of taking a deer out to 400 yds if the conditions are right. In good conditions, it will shoot a 1/2 moa 3 shot group at 300 yds. It's pushing a .40 cal Barnes 195g bullet at 2850 fps. BUT, it has the bc of a brick, so it peters out pretty quickly. There are 2 farms that I can hunt, and both are like pool tables. One has an abandoned RR track that the "bed" roughly 10' higher than the fields. The fields are surrounded by woods, but there isn't much if any cover on the farm itself. The farm is approx. 1/2 mile wide, and 3 miles long, 3,200 acres. The other farm has the same scenario, i.e., not much cover in the farm itself, but is surrounded by woods. That farm is around 800 acres. So, the deer walk out to feed onto this pool table from the surrounding woods. Since the deer haven't been shot at with anything that has some legs, they feel safe 5-600+ yds away. With equipment that can reach out there, I can set up a small portable shooting bench inside a pop-up ground blind and cover a lot of area....... Last year many times the deer were 800+ yds away. With the right equipment and practice, I know that first shot hits on deer in the vitals would be easily accomplished. I have all the peripherals, rangefinder, exbal, etc., etc. [/QUOTE]
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