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Purchasing firearms related items in a presidential election year
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<blockquote data-quote="SidecarFlip" data-source="post: 665979" data-attributes="member: 39764"><p>I agree in principle. IMO, the NRA is perpetuating the stigma associated with Obama perceived attitude toward firearms and gun control, however, Obama can take a back seat and let his Attorney General, Eric Holder, mandate and execute policy concerning gun control, which he has in the past and which just might cause his removal from appointed office (Fast and Furious). It's also telling that Obama has invoked executive privilege concerning Holder and his production of pertinent documents as they relate to the gun walking fiasco in which an agent was killed.</p><p> </p><p>Again, IMO, Obama is more about socialist values than immediate regulation of firearms, besides, it would be very difficult (and most likely with civil disobedience) for the administration to remove now legal firearms from the population in general.</p><p> </p><p>However, always keep in mind that the President under the War Powers Act, can invoke martial law anytime he chooses. The invoking of martial law was evidenced in New Orleans during hurricane Katrina and the subsequent seizing of legal, registered firearms by law enforcement officials acting under that declaration. That applies to any President, not just Obama. Additionally, the Patriot Act contains language that in essence, allows American Troops to fire on American Citizens, if so ordered, in times of National Emergency or as predicated by the President of the Unired States. I have a major issue with that as well.</p><p> </p><p>The Bank of America scenario with Kelly Macmillan was intimately discussed on this site. In my opinion, from reading the posts on here and other sites as well as taking a long view of BOA and their relationship with the government and how it relates to TARP funds, it's easy to deduce that the Executive branch could have had undue influence in BOA's decision to terminate Macmillan's line of credit.</p><p> </p><p>When you hold the purse strings (even though the purse was actually taxpayers dollars), it's very easy to set policy while staying completely in the background. I have no doubt that the current administration is ant-gun and will effectuate it's policy using any method at it's disposal</p><p> </p><p>Of course all the above is based on what I read and observe and may or may not be correct. In today's political climate, you have to wade through layers and layers of irrelevant information to obtain the correct information to base an opinion on.</p><p> </p><p>Again, while I don't agree with all the premises put forth by the NRA, the NRA still remains the prominent gatekeeper in opposition to the eroding of Second Amendment Rights by <u>any</u> administration, not just the current one.</p><p> </p><p>Past practice most times sets precident. In light of past practice and events, it's safe to say that we may very well experience component shortages, arms shortages and the resultant price increases (again), because pricing is always based on demand. That's sound business policy.</p><p> </p><p>...........I'm glad I have spell check......<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SidecarFlip, post: 665979, member: 39764"] I agree in principle. IMO, the NRA is perpetuating the stigma associated with Obama perceived attitude toward firearms and gun control, however, Obama can take a back seat and let his Attorney General, Eric Holder, mandate and execute policy concerning gun control, which he has in the past and which just might cause his removal from appointed office (Fast and Furious). It's also telling that Obama has invoked executive privilege concerning Holder and his production of pertinent documents as they relate to the gun walking fiasco in which an agent was killed. Again, IMO, Obama is more about socialist values than immediate regulation of firearms, besides, it would be very difficult (and most likely with civil disobedience) for the administration to remove now legal firearms from the population in general. However, always keep in mind that the President under the War Powers Act, can invoke martial law anytime he chooses. The invoking of martial law was evidenced in New Orleans during hurricane Katrina and the subsequent seizing of legal, registered firearms by law enforcement officials acting under that declaration. That applies to any President, not just Obama. Additionally, the Patriot Act contains language that in essence, allows American Troops to fire on American Citizens, if so ordered, in times of National Emergency or as predicated by the President of the Unired States. I have a major issue with that as well. The Bank of America scenario with Kelly Macmillan was intimately discussed on this site. In my opinion, from reading the posts on here and other sites as well as taking a long view of BOA and their relationship with the government and how it relates to TARP funds, it's easy to deduce that the Executive branch could have had undue influence in BOA's decision to terminate Macmillan's line of credit. When you hold the purse strings (even though the purse was actually taxpayers dollars), it's very easy to set policy while staying completely in the background. I have no doubt that the current administration is ant-gun and will effectuate it's policy using any method at it's disposal Of course all the above is based on what I read and observe and may or may not be correct. In today's political climate, you have to wade through layers and layers of irrelevant information to obtain the correct information to base an opinion on. Again, while I don't agree with all the premises put forth by the NRA, the NRA still remains the prominent gatekeeper in opposition to the eroding of Second Amendment Rights by [U]any[/U] administration, not just the current one. Past practice most times sets precident. In light of past practice and events, it's safe to say that we may very well experience component shortages, arms shortages and the resultant price increases (again), because pricing is always based on demand. That's sound business policy. ...........I'm glad I have spell check......:D [/QUOTE]
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