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Proof Barrels And Shermans.....WOW !
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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 2487511" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>I'm going with the Benchmark carbon next time I use carbon, a couple of my best barrels are Benchmark but they did have a bad run of barrels too and I haven't used one since that started trickling out, by all accounts they are back quality.</p><p>The X Caliber is tempting but they had so many utter donkeys in the begining I really struggle with just the thought, they seemed to shoot but dimensionally the worst barrels I ever seen, but all a company needs it to higher someone who has high expectations for their product and it will turn a lot around!!</p><p>Lilja had a streak there that almost cost me serious injury, way high pressure spikes but from the sounds of it that got sorted out too.</p><p>The biggest thing to me is if a barrel maker looks at the barrel and says "yep, our bad" I'm all good, the best way to move on from issues is to solve them and move one not deflect and blame anything but their product. They know exactly the percentage of barrels are to tight by their own admission, the number of barrels I know of they've replaced, all none Sherman's, if it was a cost effective issue to fix they would do it.</p><p></p><p>I do find it interesting how many smiths really like the steel proof but won't use the carbon, obviously they are capable of great barrels, with the prices they've come down to I'm willing to bet there is a process like an extra heat treat that is being skipped and I'm betting it's a calculated risk they are willing to take, replace a few tight barrels vs an extra step on all barrels equals higher production lower in input. Unfortunately Sherman's are being chambered at a rate that ADG and Hornady can't keep up with dies and brass, and Proof has positioned themselves as a performance product which fits many Sherman builders, so I am betting it's a buzz kill so they've chosen how they will deal with it so has Rich it would seem. Lots of barrel option out there IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 2487511, member: 13632"] I'm going with the Benchmark carbon next time I use carbon, a couple of my best barrels are Benchmark but they did have a bad run of barrels too and I haven't used one since that started trickling out, by all accounts they are back quality. The X Caliber is tempting but they had so many utter donkeys in the begining I really struggle with just the thought, they seemed to shoot but dimensionally the worst barrels I ever seen, but all a company needs it to higher someone who has high expectations for their product and it will turn a lot around!! Lilja had a streak there that almost cost me serious injury, way high pressure spikes but from the sounds of it that got sorted out too. The biggest thing to me is if a barrel maker looks at the barrel and says "yep, our bad" I'm all good, the best way to move on from issues is to solve them and move one not deflect and blame anything but their product. They know exactly the percentage of barrels are to tight by their own admission, the number of barrels I know of they've replaced, all none Sherman's, if it was a cost effective issue to fix they would do it. I do find it interesting how many smiths really like the steel proof but won't use the carbon, obviously they are capable of great barrels, with the prices they've come down to I'm willing to bet there is a process like an extra heat treat that is being skipped and I'm betting it's a calculated risk they are willing to take, replace a few tight barrels vs an extra step on all barrels equals higher production lower in input. Unfortunately Sherman's are being chambered at a rate that ADG and Hornady can't keep up with dies and brass, and Proof has positioned themselves as a performance product which fits many Sherman builders, so I am betting it's a buzz kill so they've chosen how they will deal with it so has Rich it would seem. Lots of barrel option out there IMO. [/QUOTE]
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