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<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 520258" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p>I can not honestly believe that someone would imply or even say that a gunsmith is required to thread and chamber a Savage barrel without the action present or one stands a good chance of getting a bad barrel. I guess team Savage must have been lieing when the two guys were shooting factory everything when the team won the world championships HUH? When Stan Pate (captain) told me he set the factory barrel up himself and explained to me how he torqures the Barrel nut and action (QUOTE)</p><p></p><p></p><p>I can not honestly believe that someone is nieve enough to believe that Team Savage went to </p><p>Walmart and bought a couple of rifles and used them to win the world championship.</p><p></p><p>You must know that they were selective and chose only the best parts like every one did that</p><p>had a team or shot that match. Any manufacture is going to use only the best that they can </p><p>produce and have the best armorer/ Gunsmith assemble the rifle. with thousands of barrels to </p><p>chose from It is very possible to find a good combination of barrel and action.</p><p></p><p>To get a class one thread fit one has to cut the threads to fit the action and/or cut the action </p><p>threads and then cut the threads on the barrel to fit the action. Pre threaded barrels are not and</p><p>cannot be that good or they would not fit all actions. they are all undersized so they will fit any</p><p>action.and that is just one thing that has to be right to produce a realy accurate rifle.</p><p></p><p>Little things that may only reduce the group by .050 thousandths add up and make the difference</p><p>in a great rifle and a good rifle.</p><p></p><p>Accurizing does not mean screwing something together and head spacing it, it means checking</p><p>everything, correcting anything that is not as perfect as possible, assembly of all of these parts</p><p>properly and testing to prove performance.</p><p></p><p>My point to all of this is; Simply buying a pre fit barrel from a reputable company does not </p><p>guarantee accuracy. You can get lucky but not every time. </p><p></p><p>Savage does make good rifles. but this sounds like just another sales promotion and not real </p><p>world conditions.</p><p></p><p>Having competed for many years on the national level I can tell you for a fact , the top shooters </p><p>and teams used only the finest equipment and had the support of many vendors. Even the barrel</p><p>makers selected there very best barrels for these people and It was a way of boosting sales.</p><p></p><p>The military had an armorer that accompanied the team and supplied them with parts,ammo</p><p>any maintenance and service or repair that was nessary. The big factory teams also came with all </p><p>of this support.</p><p></p><p>Pre fit barrels are great for those that cant or don't have the equipment to build a rifle from </p><p>scratch. They allow shooters to improve the factory rifles performance without having to use </p><p>a Gunsmith and that's also great. But good is only as much as a person is willing to except.</p><p></p><p>Just because a guy wins a match with a certain barrel does not mean that it is the best barrel </p><p>in the world. It means that on that day, he had the right combination of rifle, ammo,weather,</p><p>skill and luck, and it was just his day.</p><p></p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 520258, member: 2736"] I can not honestly believe that someone would imply or even say that a gunsmith is required to thread and chamber a Savage barrel without the action present or one stands a good chance of getting a bad barrel. I guess team Savage must have been lieing when the two guys were shooting factory everything when the team won the world championships HUH? When Stan Pate (captain) told me he set the factory barrel up himself and explained to me how he torqures the Barrel nut and action (QUOTE) I can not honestly believe that someone is nieve enough to believe that Team Savage went to Walmart and bought a couple of rifles and used them to win the world championship. You must know that they were selective and chose only the best parts like every one did that had a team or shot that match. Any manufacture is going to use only the best that they can produce and have the best armorer/ Gunsmith assemble the rifle. with thousands of barrels to chose from It is very possible to find a good combination of barrel and action. To get a class one thread fit one has to cut the threads to fit the action and/or cut the action threads and then cut the threads on the barrel to fit the action. Pre threaded barrels are not and cannot be that good or they would not fit all actions. they are all undersized so they will fit any action.and that is just one thing that has to be right to produce a realy accurate rifle. Little things that may only reduce the group by .050 thousandths add up and make the difference in a great rifle and a good rifle. Accurizing does not mean screwing something together and head spacing it, it means checking everything, correcting anything that is not as perfect as possible, assembly of all of these parts properly and testing to prove performance. My point to all of this is; Simply buying a pre fit barrel from a reputable company does not guarantee accuracy. You can get lucky but not every time. Savage does make good rifles. but this sounds like just another sales promotion and not real world conditions. Having competed for many years on the national level I can tell you for a fact , the top shooters and teams used only the finest equipment and had the support of many vendors. Even the barrel makers selected there very best barrels for these people and It was a way of boosting sales. The military had an armorer that accompanied the team and supplied them with parts,ammo any maintenance and service or repair that was nessary. The big factory teams also came with all of this support. Pre fit barrels are great for those that cant or don't have the equipment to build a rifle from scratch. They allow shooters to improve the factory rifles performance without having to use a Gunsmith and that's also great. But good is only as much as a person is willing to except. Just because a guy wins a match with a certain barrel does not mean that it is the best barrel in the world. It means that on that day, he had the right combination of rifle, ammo,weather, skill and luck, and it was just his day. J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
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