Before I get started I want to say, I know the VLD bullets have much higher BC's and are better for shooting in bad conditions at longer ranges. I also know they kill really well too, so please don't get worked up over this issue when you read this. I am wondering what type of bullets you use for varminting from 50 to 800 yards. For this discussion, are range will be 800 yards max. All of my varmint hunting buddies all use poly tipped bullets, V-Max and Ballistic Tips, for varminting out to 800 yards. The main reason for using the V-Max and Ballistic Tip bullets over the VLD type, kill power and splat effect. They, like myself, used VLD type bullets for varminting for all ranges. However, we realized these bullets were not good for anchoring varmints. They too experienced the same thing I encountered with these bullets at ranges from 50 to 800 yards. The VLD bullets would punch right through the varmint and it would crawl back in to it's hole. This happened on many occassions, so we all agreed it was better to use the V-Max and Ballistic Tip bullets for shooting varmints at ranges from 50 to 800 yards and give up some BC for kill power. Now I am not saying the VLD type bullets do not kill at the ranges I have discussed. I am just saying they do not perform as well as the poly tipped bullets at the above mentioned ranges. Now, if we are going to shoot past 800 yards, we all have set ups for using the VLD type bullets. However, we rarely get to shoot past 800 yards. Most of our long range varmining takes place between 400 to 600 yards and the wind really never gets bad, so a really high BC bullet is not neccessary. Even when we go shooting in areas where the wind is bad, we will still use the V-Max and BT bullets out to 800 yards with great results. I myself have excellent luck with the V-Max and Ballistic Tip bullets out to ranges of 1000 yards, however, 800 yards seem to be the range were these bullets begin to lose their steam and effectivness. My buddies, and I use the following rifles and bullets for varminting from 50 to 800 yards; 1. Remington 700 VLS, 223, 40grn V-Max. 2. Ruger M77/Target 204, 32grn BT bullet. 3. Custom 220 Swift, 50grn BT. 4. Remington 700 VLS, 243, 70grn BT. 5. Custom 6mmAI, 75grn V-Max. 6. Custom 6x284, 87grn V-Max. 7. Custom 308 Winchester, 110grn V-Max. 8. Custom 30-06, 125grn BT. 9. Custom 300 Varminter, 125grn BT. All rifles, even the factory rifles, have been fitted with slow twist barrels for the best results with the light poly tipped bullets. Remeber, I would like to hear from varmint hunters and what type of bullets they perfere to use at the ranges mentioned. W.