Our fine government at work, ALREADY!!!

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  1. Fiftydriver

    Fiftydriver <strong>Official LRH Sponsor</strong>

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    Had a long phone conversation with Virginia who pretty much runs all the office work at Lilja barrels.

    Seems our fine state department slapped all exporters with a huge increase in fees for exporting firearms and componants.

    Even worse then this, the took retro action and charged them an additional $250 for every barrel that they exporter LAST YEAR!!!

    HOW IN THE HELL IS THIS POSSIBLE!!!!

    The federal government has stepped out of the dark and made it clear that they are focused on destroying the gun industry. They know they can not TAKE our rifles away so they are doing these back door deals and hitting us in different ways.

    At first it looks like they are just protecting us from out of country attacks for shipping our firearm products abroad. If that were the case, they could put on a tarriff on the products paid for by the customers, not the business. And what is the call for the retro increase charges??

    They told Lilja that they simply had to make money. Good to see that they are standing up for the small business in the country. Seems they really want to get this ecomony turned around.

    Virginia said that They are charged the same amount to export a single barrel as Boeing is charged for an aircraft!!!!! A bit biased attacks I think.

    Anyway, it has started and they are not trying to hide anymore. They can not take our guns as easily but they will put the firearm industry out of business because we will not be able to pay all the fees and taxes to stay in business and if we charge enough to make some money, our customers will not be able to afford it.

    Make no doubt, this is just the start of the attack on small businesses in the firearm industry.

    We get the government we deserve. Its true that there are very few here that voted for this new administation but its also true that millions of conservatives set on their ass and did nothing on election day. To those that felt it was better to not vote and "MAKE A STATEMENT", you are as much to blame for this as those that voted for Obama except you knew better and should have known what would happen.

    Its a time for change, get ready for it because it will not be in our favor.

    They have 2 years to do what ever they want unchecked. They have already imposed retro income taxes of 90%, they have moved into private businesses and fired CEO because they did not think they were performing as the government wanted them to and they have just imposed retro fees to small businesses.

    I thought for years the problem was we were importing more then exporting, and now they hammer our exports like this. If things do not change in 2010 all may be lost because once this starts, its nearly impossible to reverse. If you think we can not loose our firearms you are sadly a fool. We may not loose our rifles but we will not be able to afford to shoot them. That is the new plan, that is the new attack. Realize it before its to late and get ahold of your senators and Reps and make some noise, ALOT OF NOISE or they will take our voice as well.

    Sorry for the rant but we all knew it was coming, now its starting.
     
  2. RockyMtnMT

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    Perhaps Phorwath can chime in here and let us all know how much better off we are with the Obamma administration than we would have been if Palin had been the Vice Pres. I think I remember him telling me that it was just a scare tactic from the right to keep us from voting Dem. That this kind of thing really couldn't happen.

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  3. royinidaho

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    Well I"ll be a Son of a Bitch...... pardon my Spanish!

    Kirby you got an email. I'm doing my part to keep what little economy we have going. As tough as it is.

    Now I'm thinkin, I shudda bought that HK G-something.:rolleyes:
     
  4. eddybo

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    obama is a total ass. His teleprompter sets up false choices on so many issues that its difficult to keep track of them all. Make no mistake, that his economic policies are going to be total disaster down the road. The dems complained about Bush's deficits, but now we are going to run 1.5 trillion dollar deficits EVERY year. In one year, we will probably generate as much debt as Bush did in his first four years! Its also fairly clear that the Fed plans to use inflation to pay off the debt in the near future, so we are all going to suffer this "invisible" tax.

    They are going to tax everything they can put their hands on. Its sad, but I've seen the day when China has more pro growth policies than the United States.
     
  6. jmason

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    I've emailed my congressman to see if he'll shed some light. He normally takes a week or so to respond but always does.
     
  7. JEREMY logan

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    I agree with fifty driver i'm only 31 yrs old and i talked to several people that come into my place of work both dems and rep. They knew that obama was not a good choice so they said i'm not going to vote .i thought the old timers had wisdom and knew the right thing to do ... I remember obama saying on tv don't worry our administration is not going to take your guns away well he proves to be a liar!!! Shame on everyone that stayed at home and let a baby killing dem get elected, by the way the bible says god hates hands that shed innocent blood...
     
  8. WildcatB

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    Some more:

    [SIZE=+1]State Department Floating Ammo Import Ban[/SIZE]

    State Department Floating Ammo Import Ban


    Ammos listed for this rumored ban include the .50BMG, 7.62x39mm Soviet, 7.62x51mm NATO, .308 Winchester, 5.56 NATO and .223 Remington. Additionally, we're hearing that an expansion of this proposed ban might be broadened to include the 6.8mm SPC, 9mm Parabellum, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP- among others. In other words, State Department officials may be floating a trial balloon to see if there are howls of protest, or whimpers of compliance. Canadian elected officials who have directed this information to me say the move seems to be motivated by "emboldened" anti-gun officials who think they have a kindred spirit in President Obama.



    Paul
     
  9. ICANHITHIMMAN

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    I have sent out e-mail again to my reps I hope they listen we have a new senator her in NY that is Pro Gun so I keep her up to date.
     
  10. Fiftydriver

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    The really scary thing to me are these huge bills that are getting rammed down our throats in a matter of days. One of my senators was interviewed and questioned about a hypothetical example of a proposed health care standards and requirements and if he would ever vote for a bill that had these things in it.

    He sternly said he would never vote for anything remotely like this, EVER!!!!

    The reporter, a local Montana reporter gave a few seconds of silence to let that comment soak in and then replied, "Mr. Senator, you just did vote for abill that had these exact things in it." They were hidden in the huge stimulus package bill.

    The senator simply said he had not read those things in the bill. He was then asked how he could read a bill and vote on it and be this misinformed.

    His reply, SCARY AS HELL, "We just do not have the time to read every part of a bill, we just have to read the main parts and vote yes or no on that."

    WHAT THE HELL, These idiots are voting our rights away and they don't even know what they are voting for.

    They asked the senators who had read the entire bill of the stimulus package bill, NONE OF THEM said they had read the entire bill. This is how we get backdoor deals for AGI bonuses that were put in by our own officals(CHRIS DODD!!!)

    This is also how we will loose our rights. Maybe not to own firearms but they are trying hard to make it to expensive to even own them if you want to do anything with them.

    The Montana legislation just passed a bill in both houses and is now at the governs desk to be signed hopefully that exempts firearms made in Montana from all national registration and record keeping as long as the firearms are sold in the state.

    This will kick up a fuss like never seen before by the government if he signs it into law. Likely it will not happen but its good to see that at least one states legislature has the balls to for FOR gun rights instead of taking them away one at a time.

    Also notice all the damn news media falling all over themselves to report on every gun crime. Obviously these are terrible crimes but they happen so rarely its hard to explain, BUT, never forget this is a plan, a skeame to turn the population against gun owners to prevent these unpreventable crimes.

    Same thing that happened in Hitlers Germany. Tuen the public against guns and jews and eventually, no one will be able to defend themselves against the government rule and then there was no way for the jews to defend themselves against anyone.

    I am not calling Obamas administration Hitlerlike in any way, only saying that the things that got him into office are EXACTLY the same way Hitler got into office. On a message of change and dreams of good times for all and then the systematic attack with propaganda to influence the UNEDUCATED publics opinion and then they can take away private rights.

    If you think this can never happen, WAKE UP FOOLS!!! ITs already happening, wake up and realize it before its to late.

    If you do not think we are being hit with media propaganda, realize Obama spent nearly 1 billion to get elected with a HUGE deal of that being spent on TV adds. And we all know how unbiased these organizations are. Hell there is one of the major news organazations flat out set up their elect obama headquarters!!!!

    WAKE UP or we will get SHUT UP. Believe it, its already happening.

    If this crap is allowed to continue, we can all expect to see similiar retro fees imposed on us. Imagine if they decided to add a 25% registration fee on rifle makers and made it retro for the last year. APS would be no more. In fact I would say there would not be a rifle maker on LRH that would still be in business. Think it can not happen, WAKE UP and do something about it before its to late and that time is not all that far away.
     
  11. eddybo

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    I love the State of Montanas stance on firearms. Too bad it is going to get sooo crowded when they ban guns everywhere else and we all have to move there.
     
  12. Fiftydriver

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    Fortunately, there are only a few areas in Montana where Libs can survive. Namely the Bitterroot Valley, Flathead area and Bozeman area. The rest of Montana, they do not have the stones to live here, at least not year round.

    First time a Kalifornia Liberal experienes 35 delow air temps combined with a 50 mph wind loaded with snow, they decided its not the place for them.

    Then in the summer time when its 100 degrees with the same 50-60 mph wind and dry as a popcorn fart with the sky stained red with forest fire smoke(Caused by their Liberal thinking by the way!!!), they think they are again in Hell on earth!!!!!

    Land is cheap compared to what they are used to but again, no stones for it!!!
     
  13. MN Hunter

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    Fifty driver

    Unfortunately it is a proven fact that the most liberal of the liberal can survive in both extremely hot and humid temperatures and some of the most frigid bitter temperatures - just look at Minnesota. Their are more liberal wackos here than anywhere and were in the process of having an east coast wacko shoved down our throat as our next senator.

    God Bless America - we need it. It's ok to say that right?
     
  14. JEREMY logan

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    WELL OBAMA MAY THINK HE CAN TURN THIS COUNTRY INTO A SOCIALIST COUNTRY I'M GOING TO PLANT ME A BIG GARDEN . IT'S GOD GUTTS AND GUNS THAT BUILD A COUNTRY. SOCIALISIM AINT NEVER DONE NOTHING BUT TEAR A COUNTRY DOWN I SAY SHIP EVERYTHING THATS GOT A DIAPER ON ITS HEAD BACK TO IRAQ AND AFG. THE GANEVA CONVINTION SAYS WERE TO SHIPEM ALL BACK OR PUT THEM INTO CONSENTRATION CAMPS FOR AS LONG AS WE ARE AT WAR WITH THEM WE'VE COWED DOWN AND SHUT UP TO LONG . STUPID AMERICAN WAKE UP YOUR MORE WORRIED ABOUT BIG FANCEY HOMES AND SUV'S . I WOULD RATHER HAVE BUSH AS MY PRESIDENT AND BE BROKE THAN THIS BLEEDING HART LIBERAL WE HAVE NOW.gun)
     
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