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<blockquote data-quote="entoptics" data-source="post: 1809509" data-attributes="member: 104268"><p>You specifically mentioned "penetration for quartering shots", and there are many anecdotes of failure to penetrate bone with "soft" bullets of all kinds.</p><p> </p><p>I'm not an accomplished hunter at all, but I've shot two small whitetail in the boiler, only ribs in the path, with a 200+ 30 cal, launched with about 3800 ftlbs muzzle energy. Both were <em><u>not</u></em> DRT.</p><p></p><p>1) Broadside across the top of both lungs, 200 Sierra GK, 350 yds, impact at ~2550 ftlbs and ~2550 fps. Ended up shooting that one twice after a wide open field chase of a few hundred yards.</p><p></p><p>2) Slight quartering, bullet entered the back of the port side lung, went out the front of the starboard side lung. 208 ELD-M, 552 yds, impact at ~2300 ftlbs, and ~2200 fps. Bolted 40 yds and piled up.</p><p></p><p>Both instances, bullets passed through and damaged everything in between badly. They weren't Thor's hammer though, and that's from a moderate Win Mag going 200 fps faster than a feisty '06.</p><p></p><p>I'm not a sniper by any means, but even if I absolutely knew the shot would hit broadside boiler room, I probably wouldn't take a shot on an elk with my 300WM recipe at 800 yds with a 208 ELDM (or probably any bullet).</p><p></p><p>YMMV<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="entoptics, post: 1809509, member: 104268"] You specifically mentioned "penetration for quartering shots", and there are many anecdotes of failure to penetrate bone with "soft" bullets of all kinds. I'm not an accomplished hunter at all, but I've shot two small whitetail in the boiler, only ribs in the path, with a 200+ 30 cal, launched with about 3800 ftlbs muzzle energy. Both were [I][U]not[/U][/I] DRT. 1) Broadside across the top of both lungs, 200 Sierra GK, 350 yds, impact at ~2550 ftlbs and ~2550 fps. Ended up shooting that one twice after a wide open field chase of a few hundred yards. 2) Slight quartering, bullet entered the back of the port side lung, went out the front of the starboard side lung. 208 ELD-M, 552 yds, impact at ~2300 ftlbs, and ~2200 fps. Bolted 40 yds and piled up. Both instances, bullets passed through and damaged everything in between badly. They weren't Thor's hammer though, and that's from a moderate Win Mag going 200 fps faster than a feisty '06. I'm not a sniper by any means, but even if I absolutely knew the shot would hit broadside boiler room, I probably wouldn't take a shot on an elk with my 300WM recipe at 800 yds with a 208 ELDM (or probably any bullet). YMMV:) [/QUOTE]
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