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Opening a Bolt Face from .308 to Magnum
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<blockquote data-quote="johnlittletree" data-source="post: 1535556" data-attributes="member: 105653"><p>Do yourself a favor either sell that rifle and get a standard length action with a magnum bolt face or stay away from the modern short action magnums. It is foolish to build a short action into a 6mm-7mm short fat magnum with long VLD bullets. Why is it foolish and why do so many do it even though it is Forest Gump foolish? </p><p></p><p>It is foolish because you are limited by the OAL of the mag box when seating the bullet to feed from the too short short action mag box. So you can not load the ammo in such a way to make it extremely accurate because you can not seat the bullet out far enough to kiss the lands and you encroach into the powder capacity often with VLD bullets in the 6mm, 6.5mm and 7mm variety often.</p><p></p><p>The best action to build a 6.5PRC on is a standard length action but once you go there it is foolish to limit yourself to the 6.5 PRC with a standard length action. </p><p></p><p>The 4 ounces you save with a short action are lost once you start adding a #3 or larger barrel, Badger Ord. steel rings, steel base, steel HD bottom metal, debatable mag, huge NightForce or like 4-24x55mm 35mm tube etc....</p><p></p><p>I can only assume people read too many gun rags and have been brainwashed by the writers of those magazine the internet experts that seem to always be pushing an agenda not based in fact. They always leave the real world experience part. People that think a short action being stiffer equals more accurate are just demonstrating how indoctrinated they have become since no part of that belief has ever been proven with a large data pool in real life ever. It is based on assumption that even a C- engineer could see is not factual or related.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="johnlittletree, post: 1535556, member: 105653"] Do yourself a favor either sell that rifle and get a standard length action with a magnum bolt face or stay away from the modern short action magnums. It is foolish to build a short action into a 6mm-7mm short fat magnum with long VLD bullets. Why is it foolish and why do so many do it even though it is Forest Gump foolish? It is foolish because you are limited by the OAL of the mag box when seating the bullet to feed from the too short short action mag box. So you can not load the ammo in such a way to make it extremely accurate because you can not seat the bullet out far enough to kiss the lands and you encroach into the powder capacity often with VLD bullets in the 6mm, 6.5mm and 7mm variety often. The best action to build a 6.5PRC on is a standard length action but once you go there it is foolish to limit yourself to the 6.5 PRC with a standard length action. The 4 ounces you save with a short action are lost once you start adding a #3 or larger barrel, Badger Ord. steel rings, steel base, steel HD bottom metal, debatable mag, huge NightForce or like 4-24x55mm 35mm tube etc.... I can only assume people read too many gun rags and have been brainwashed by the writers of those magazine the internet experts that seem to always be pushing an agenda not based in fact. They always leave the real world experience part. People that think a short action being stiffer equals more accurate are just demonstrating how indoctrinated they have become since no part of that belief has ever been proven with a large data pool in real life ever. It is based on assumption that even a C- engineer could see is not factual or related. [/QUOTE]
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