? on Bushnell Spacemaster Bigeyes

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by GEG, Jun 6, 2002.

  1. GEG

    GEG Well-Known Member

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    Can (2) Bushnell 15x45x60 Spacemasters yoked together (Bigeyes) see .30 cal bullet holes
    at 600 to 1000 yds? If you have any first
    hand on this, please help. Thanks GEG
     
  2. Darryl Cassel

    Darryl Cassel Well-Known Member

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    Hello

    After putting about 50 sets of Spacemasters together in adjustable brackets, I can tell you that, you can't use the variable eyepieces in two tubes.

    You can't get them set exactly the same no matter how you try and it will cause severe eye strain.

    It is best to use two straight power eyepieces in each tube that are the SAME power, like 20X or 22X which seem to be the most desirable.

    Just thought you should know.

    DC
     

  3. texas

    texas Well-Known Member

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    DC what was the cost for a set of big eyes again?
     
  4. Darryl Cassel

    Darryl Cassel Well-Known Member

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    At the present time the cost for Spacemasters in the bracket with 22X Eyepieces, collimated and ready to use-- the price is up to $750.00.

    Hard to find the tubes without variable eyepieces any longer.

    DC
     
  5. GEG

    GEG Well-Known Member

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    DC, can the straight power eyepieces (only)
    be found at a reasonable price? The 22x
    bigeyes, can they see .30 cal bullet holes
    at 600 to 1000yds? Thanks GEG

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  6. Steve Shelp

    Steve Shelp Well-Known Member

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    GEG,
    Seeing bullet holes is a hit miss proposition at 1000yds. 600yds would be easier naturally, but the mirage will still raise havoc with you.
    But to simply answer your question outright..... yes. In certain conditions only though. The Bushnell glass is good enough to do it at 1000yd if the bullet holes are in the white only and the conditions are right. I've seen them using Bushnell, Kowa, and Swarovski glass before. But it depends on the mirage, time of day, and position of the sun. I attend 18-20 1000yd matches a year and I might be able to see holes on maybe 5 different occasions. And that's only at certain times during any one partcular match.
    Plus the other thing is your eyes. I know by using an adjsutable scope you should be able to see as good as the next guy looking through the same scope, but it's simply not the case.
    A perfect example of this was back in 98 or 99 at the VA 1000yd range I was spotting for Dave Tooley and Rick Piccaretta was spotting for the shooter on the bench just to the right of Dave. Well Dave fired really fast and Rick made a comment that Dave had 4 bullet holes in the lower left hand corner of the 4" white square that we have in the middle of our X ring for sighting purposes. I was using Dave's Kowa bigeye's to look through and couldn't pick them out. I have been able to see holes at other times using this setup before. I ask Rick if I could look through the Swarovski scope he was using, and I couldn't see the holes he was talking about.

    After the target was scored, Rick was 100% correct! But I couldn't see them using the same scope.

    I've also seen a man call 6mm bullet holes in the white at 1000yd using a 12-42X Nightforce scope on approx 28-30X. He called the location, approx group size, and the score sitting at the bench looking through the scope. He was right on, after that target was brought back and scored also. I've never been able to see 6mm holes ever. So yes it can be done, but you may or maynot be able to do it yourself.

    Steve