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<blockquote data-quote="ducky" data-source="post: 1713709" data-attributes="member: 94420"><p>Counseling only works if his daughter doesn't shut down. Family counseling didn't work for us at first, things had get really bad before my daughter got scared enough to realize she needed help. Even then it took intensive one on one counseling with a therapist for my daughter to ever get her back into a family counselor with my wife and I. </p><p></p><p>It took having my hystericsl daughter committed by an ER Dr the day we slapped a restraining order on the boy for my daughter to participate. She had no choice then, she wasn't getting out of the juvenile mental health ward without it. She was stubborn at first, and it took almost two weeks for her to come home. I think she would have been trying to get back to that boy if he hadn't posted on his FB he was in a relationship and was kissing on one of my daughter's friends from 4H.</p><p></p><p>Believe me I wanted to handle things old school and while he wound up dropping out of HS while dating my daughter, he was pretty social media savvy. I mean I dreamed of a one way spelunking trip for him down one of CO's many abandoned vertical mine shafts. When things were going south quickly he made sure he was never alone and had someone recording us when he would confront us, or he'd just appear at public places we were at. I tried having a talk with his mother but she had the cellphone up recording as well, saying her son hadn't done anything wrong and that we couldn't stop him from seeing our daughter. So I always wound up walking away and looking weak when the videos were posted, but I stayed out of jail and kept my job. If I had done what I wanted to do, I'd not have done either of those.</p><p></p><p>My advice is, you can't help your kids if you do stupid stuff as well. However, sometimes you just have to watch the wreck happen. Just make sure you're there to stop them from seriously hurting themselves and to pick up the pieces and help them. This is just like a drug or alcohol addiction with thes young kids, you can see the problem, tell them they have a problem, but until they admit they're in trouble and have a problem nothing you can do will help.</p><p></p><p>Things can and do get better once everyone can change and get help. My daughter is doing everything she did before 4H/FFA, knowledge bowl, baket ball, and track, but she has a job, is class president, is the 2020 tri-county rodeo and fair Queen, and she just bought he first car (88 Jeep Wrangler) 100% with money she earned. Tomorrow we leave for her ML bull elk hunt. She still likes boys, but the one she likes now just finished up Marine Corps boot camp, and she's trying to get accepted into either the Coast Guard or Naval Academy after graduation in 2021.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ducky, post: 1713709, member: 94420"] Counseling only works if his daughter doesn't shut down. Family counseling didn't work for us at first, things had get really bad before my daughter got scared enough to realize she needed help. Even then it took intensive one on one counseling with a therapist for my daughter to ever get her back into a family counselor with my wife and I. It took having my hystericsl daughter committed by an ER Dr the day we slapped a restraining order on the boy for my daughter to participate. She had no choice then, she wasn't getting out of the juvenile mental health ward without it. She was stubborn at first, and it took almost two weeks for her to come home. I think she would have been trying to get back to that boy if he hadn't posted on his FB he was in a relationship and was kissing on one of my daughter's friends from 4H. Believe me I wanted to handle things old school and while he wound up dropping out of HS while dating my daughter, he was pretty social media savvy. I mean I dreamed of a one way spelunking trip for him down one of CO's many abandoned vertical mine shafts. When things were going south quickly he made sure he was never alone and had someone recording us when he would confront us, or he'd just appear at public places we were at. I tried having a talk with his mother but she had the cellphone up recording as well, saying her son hadn't done anything wrong and that we couldn't stop him from seeing our daughter. So I always wound up walking away and looking weak when the videos were posted, but I stayed out of jail and kept my job. If I had done what I wanted to do, I'd not have done either of those. My advice is, you can't help your kids if you do stupid stuff as well. However, sometimes you just have to watch the wreck happen. Just make sure you're there to stop them from seriously hurting themselves and to pick up the pieces and help them. This is just like a drug or alcohol addiction with thes young kids, you can see the problem, tell them they have a problem, but until they admit they're in trouble and have a problem nothing you can do will help. Things can and do get better once everyone can change and get help. My daughter is doing everything she did before 4H/FFA, knowledge bowl, baket ball, and track, but she has a job, is class president, is the 2020 tri-county rodeo and fair Queen, and she just bought he first car (88 Jeep Wrangler) 100% with money she earned. Tomorrow we leave for her ML bull elk hunt. She still likes boys, but the one she likes now just finished up Marine Corps boot camp, and she's trying to get accepted into either the Coast Guard or Naval Academy after graduation in 2021. [/QUOTE]
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