Obama trying to ban guns with international treaties

Discussion in 'Politics Of Hunting And Guns (NOT General Politics' started by D.Camilleri, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. D.Camilleri

    D.Camilleri Well-Known Member

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    > Subject: FW: Obama Takes First Step in Banning All Firearms 4 ALL US Citizens...
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    > This is another end run around the Constitution! Actually, it cedes the Constitution to "foreign consensus"!
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    > Obama Finds Legal Way Around The 2nd. Amendment and Uses It.
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    > U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade | Politics | Reuters <http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015> Nov 14, 2009
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    > Subject: Obama Takes First Step in Banning All Firearms On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States
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    > On Wednesday the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.
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    > The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.
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    > This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control.
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    > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto.
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    > The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.
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    > U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade | Politics | Reuters
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  2. Topshot

    Topshot Well-Known Member

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    It can happen.
    Australia is also signing such treaties.

    It was a sad day down here, when some years ago, I had to hand in my semi auto 12ga shotgun and Ruger 10/22 to be destroyed, just because the government thought it was a good idea to ban them.

    I am waiting for them to ban bolt actions rifles. It is only a matter of time.
     

  3. RockyMtnMT

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    Topshot's statement is disturbing to read. I knew about Australia's guns, but to hear from someone who had to hand in his guns is frightening.

    Is there anyone in the US that is talking about this? Elected officials, media, etc? NRA?

    Is this real? We see these false alarms circulate on the Internet all the time. The Reuters article seems to give authenticity to the subject.

    Steve
     
  4. jimbires

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  5. MontanaRifleman

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    As per the NRA reference, all treaties must be ratified by congress. So I doubt that this will happen. But of course, never sleep and never let up the pressure.

    No treaty will remove my guns from me as the right to have them been granted to me by the Consistution which is a higher authority.

    - shall not be infringed -

    Mark
     
  6. darrindlh

    darrindlh Well-Known Member

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    I agree,

    Come hell or high water my guns will never leave my side!!! We can not stand back and be silent anymore!!!gun)gun)

    Darrin
     
  7. tome

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    what can you do??? Help turn out the vote in 2010..bring balance to the house and senate..by the way, it takes a 2/3 majority of the senate to radify any treaty..that means Republicans would have to sign on to trashing the 2nd ..that isn't going to happen.. i'd really be supprised to see any real gun control crap before the 2010 elections..Obama knows what this did to the dems under clinton
     
  8. mudbug

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    From my cold dead hand!!!
     
  9. GUNNER 1

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    just did a little math, ive been carrying a gun for 64 yrs. 8 months, they may come after my guns but i will be standing in knee deep brass before they get them. nuff said .
     
  10. Doug in Alaska

    Doug in Alaska Well-Known Member

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    You can count on me to stand shoulder to shoulder with you!
     
  11. GUNNER 1

    GUNNER 1 Well-Known Member

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    doug im sure there are many good people that feel the same way we do.gun)
     
  12. hillbillybear

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    Given the idiots that infest Congress I wouldn't be surprised if they would ratify such a treaty.
     
  13. john g duvall

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    Good news travels fast. Nov. 4 2008 Bushmaster alone sold 67,000 AR's in one day! That does not include DPMS, Armalite and the other couple thousand outfits that make this weapon. M-14's, M-1's and just about everything associated with weapons, ammo and reloading was very hard to come by for about 7 months. Rasmussen poll said that there are about 153 million Americans that now have weapons of Military grade or higher. Every day Obamas ratings fall as many people are just now being convinced of what mistakes they made in voting for the bastard! Nov. 3 of 2010 will tells us all what needs to be done. "The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good men do nothing". E.Burke In the mean time let us dig our foxholes carefully. J.D.( 435th CSG ground tactical LRS 1972-1976) Gung Ho x 3!