I'm getting ready to do my 2nd ever Ladder test. 1st was not exactly successful. Rifle is a 24 yr old Rem 700 in 30-06 with a Leupold M8 4x (PARALAX involved here). It was a custom job I had put together where the FACTORY barrel was turned down to a tooth-pick slim .550" at the muzzle and then Mag-na-ported. Very well bedded in a fiberglass stock, fully free floated and trigger pulling a very crisp 3-lbs. I'm shooting Nosler 180 Ballistic Tips, fully prepped W-W brass (4th firing sized .003" in Forester BR dies), WLR primers and trying Rel 22 and Ramshot Hunter. I've had both H4350 and H4895 give excellent results with groups occasionally running sub MOA. But, I'm looking for a little more velocity (than the H4895) and consistent accuracy (than the H4350)in the sub MOA department. And, I'm just curious. Isn't that part of the fun of reloading? I plan on doing a full blown 300 yd Ladder test. I'm going to start with the Nosler's just touching the lands, seated in Forester Ultra-Seater die. Don't worry, the magazine easily accomodated an OAL of 3.6+" and my current OAL is 3.540". I understand the concept of the Ladder and have also used the OCW. I don't have enough experience with either to have a preference. My rifle/scope combo, being an ultralight rig (6 lb 8 oz), is obviously not a heavy barreled F-class or varmit gun, etc., and does not shoot as such. I have read and re-read Glen Zediker's "Handloading for Competition" until it's nearly falling apart. On pages 371-373 he covers the Audette/Ladder Method sufficiently enough that I believe it will work. He even shows a nice diagram of a very successful Ladder (we should all be so lucky to have similar Ladders). I'm finally getting to my question! Standard Ladder uses 1/one/uno shot per propellant charge increase. Zediker seems to prefer 5-shot groups using the same propellant charge increase. Now, since my rifle is not a target grade, but rather customized "factory", Rem 700, I wanted to get some of your feedback on that. Has anyone used 2-shot, 3-shot, 4-shot or 5-shot groups for the Ladder? PS. I reload AT the range "throwing" measured prop charges via my Harrel's Premium Measure.