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<blockquote data-quote="elkaholic" data-source="post: 887268" data-attributes="member: 13833"><p>Pictures of wound channels and internal damage are the only way to tell whether the bullet did its job or not! I've seen animals run some distance with vitals completely blown apart and others drop with far les damage, but lets get back to the timing thing again. This is something that isn't mentioned often enough and has a lot to do with killing. Also, expansion alone does not cause as mush lethal damage as expansion plus shrapnel. When a bullet sheds some of its weight, all those little sharp things flying around in the boiler room cause damage (bleeding) far outside the wound channel and vessels that might be completely missed by 1/2-3/4" mushroom are severed. Now back to the LRAB: I think Nosler was trying to make a good long range bullet that would perform well close up (good for them)! I believe, and this is my opinion, what they did was put too much emphasis on making the thing expand and lost too much on the bottom end. These things will expand below 1300', and not just a little! This is great if everyone was shooting 1700 yards, but how realistic is that? The ones that I tested pancaked immediately, and I was not shooting them at mag velocities. At the range where I feel the LRAB will be most effective, you don't need bonding, and it really isn't even desirable. The bonding no doubt helps them a little close up, but again, they over did the expansion design so much that they still are far too soon pancaked. I may be wrong, but when more results come in, I believe that there will be problems when penetration through a lot of tissue is needed at high velocities. My 208 SXR's are similar, in many ways to the LRAB, although they have a much higher b.c., They work great at long and extreme ranges, but I would never recommend them for a shoulder shot on an elk close up. This isn't meant to say that they won't have some good applications, but I think they are far from what they could have been. Somewhere between the old AB's and the new would have served a lot more shooters well IMO......Rich</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="elkaholic, post: 887268, member: 13833"] Pictures of wound channels and internal damage are the only way to tell whether the bullet did its job or not! I've seen animals run some distance with vitals completely blown apart and others drop with far les damage, but lets get back to the timing thing again. This is something that isn't mentioned often enough and has a lot to do with killing. Also, expansion alone does not cause as mush lethal damage as expansion plus shrapnel. When a bullet sheds some of its weight, all those little sharp things flying around in the boiler room cause damage (bleeding) far outside the wound channel and vessels that might be completely missed by 1/2-3/4" mushroom are severed. Now back to the LRAB: I think Nosler was trying to make a good long range bullet that would perform well close up (good for them)! I believe, and this is my opinion, what they did was put too much emphasis on making the thing expand and lost too much on the bottom end. These things will expand below 1300', and not just a little! This is great if everyone was shooting 1700 yards, but how realistic is that? The ones that I tested pancaked immediately, and I was not shooting them at mag velocities. At the range where I feel the LRAB will be most effective, you don't need bonding, and it really isn't even desirable. The bonding no doubt helps them a little close up, but again, they over did the expansion design so much that they still are far too soon pancaked. I may be wrong, but when more results come in, I believe that there will be problems when penetration through a lot of tissue is needed at high velocities. My 208 SXR's are similar, in many ways to the LRAB, although they have a much higher b.c., They work great at long and extreme ranges, but I would never recommend them for a shoulder shot on an elk close up. This isn't meant to say that they won't have some good applications, but I think they are far from what they could have been. Somewhere between the old AB's and the new would have served a lot more shooters well IMO......Rich [/QUOTE]
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