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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Eichele" data-source="post: 606552" data-attributes="member: 1007"><p>I tried the Palma brass because I am a sucker that likes to try new products whether its all marketing hype or the real deal but typically only if I feel it will improve something I am already not happy with. I heard that they offer lower extreme spreads and I felt like my current extreme spreads have been too high for too long. Even paying attention to neck tension and other variables, I still seem to have a problem with it so I thoughht I would try them at least once. How do I like them? I LOVE THEM!! I have got some very very good extreme spreads. Most of the time in the high single digits but sometimes as high as 20 which is rare. Single digits to teen digits is the norm. Either way it is alot better than what I have been getting. Is it due to the smaller primer? I have no idea. I just know the Std.Dev. is much lower. All of my groups yesterday from 630 to 1005 had very little vertical separation. The group you see in the first post had the worst verticle separation. From 630 and 870 they all had 2" or less. At 1005 all my groups had about 4" or less. I didnt post other groups just because they were not as pretty as the one I posted. I was fighting changing winds and had some groups with 12" of horizontal separation even though the vertical was awesome.</p><p></p><p>I have not tried the 178 BTHP. With the stellar results I have had in all of my .30 caliber rifles with the polymer tip version both terminally and accuracy wise, trying them is not that high on my priority list. I will eventually try them but for now I am content and more than happy with the original.</p><p></p><p>M</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Eichele, post: 606552, member: 1007"] I tried the Palma brass because I am a sucker that likes to try new products whether its all marketing hype or the real deal but typically only if I feel it will improve something I am already not happy with. I heard that they offer lower extreme spreads and I felt like my current extreme spreads have been too high for too long. Even paying attention to neck tension and other variables, I still seem to have a problem with it so I thoughht I would try them at least once. How do I like them? I LOVE THEM!! I have got some very very good extreme spreads. Most of the time in the high single digits but sometimes as high as 20 which is rare. Single digits to teen digits is the norm. Either way it is alot better than what I have been getting. Is it due to the smaller primer? I have no idea. I just know the Std.Dev. is much lower. All of my groups yesterday from 630 to 1005 had very little vertical separation. The group you see in the first post had the worst verticle separation. From 630 and 870 they all had 2" or less. At 1005 all my groups had about 4" or less. I didnt post other groups just because they were not as pretty as the one I posted. I was fighting changing winds and had some groups with 12" of horizontal separation even though the vertical was awesome. I have not tried the 178 BTHP. With the stellar results I have had in all of my .30 caliber rifles with the polymer tip version both terminally and accuracy wise, trying them is not that high on my priority list. I will eventually try them but for now I am content and more than happy with the original. M [/QUOTE]
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