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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 784100" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>For 300 yd hunting, most quality off the shelf rifles will do fine but there is still a difference between a factory production rifle and custom build or a Cooper. One of the biggest differences is the barrel. If people could get a good look at a factory rifle's bore through a bore scope, many would probably never buy another factory rile. With a custom barrel, you will not need to clean near as often which will save you both time, money and barrel life not to mention much better precision and accuracy.</p><p></p><p>It's possible to stumble across a good shooter and Savages, Howas and Vanguards usually produce very accurate rifles for an off the shelf product. Senderos usually shoot very well but they have a hefty price tag too. That said, buying a factory production rifle is a roll of the dice. Case in point. I bought a high dollar Sako M85 Finnlight that was supposed to have a 5 shot Sub MOA guarantee. It didn't shoot anywhere close to that. It was a very inconsistant 1.5 - 3 MOA shooter and 3 MOA @ 300 yds = 9". I sent it back to Beretta twice and twice they sent it back saying there was nothing wrong with it. Good luck getting any of the large gun makers to stand behind their product. Not gonna happen, not for accuracy. I was actually looking at Cooper the same time I bought the Sako. Should have bought the Copper. I would have been a very happy man.</p><p></p><p>I have a couple of build projects now using Vanguard action doners. Here's what they're costing me.</p><p></p><p>Doner rifle cost, $200 & $300 @ gun shows</p><p>Action blue print, $325 ea</p><p>Broughton Barrels, $350 ea</p><p>Chamber and crown, $275 ea</p><p>B&C Medalist full aluminum bedded stock, $270, Manners stock $470</p><p>Bedding job $100 ea</p><p></p><p>They will cost $1520 & and $1920 for the basic rifle.</p><p>I was able to tune both triggers to a crisp 1.5 lbs. I'll be putting Timney 3 position triggers on them only because I want the 3 position feature. I cannot tell the difference between the ones I tuned and a Timney. One of them will also get a brake installed for $200. These rifles should shoot as well any custom and the both of them will cost about the same as full custom build.</p><p></p><p>There was also a good suggestion to look at some of the used rifles for sale on this site. There are some very good deals there.</p><p></p><p>To the OP, I would highly recommend getting a good custom quality rifle (to include a Cooper) if it's in the budget.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 784100, member: 11717"] For 300 yd hunting, most quality off the shelf rifles will do fine but there is still a difference between a factory production rifle and custom build or a Cooper. One of the biggest differences is the barrel. If people could get a good look at a factory rifle's bore through a bore scope, many would probably never buy another factory rile. With a custom barrel, you will not need to clean near as often which will save you both time, money and barrel life not to mention much better precision and accuracy. It's possible to stumble across a good shooter and Savages, Howas and Vanguards usually produce very accurate rifles for an off the shelf product. Senderos usually shoot very well but they have a hefty price tag too. That said, buying a factory production rifle is a roll of the dice. Case in point. I bought a high dollar Sako M85 Finnlight that was supposed to have a 5 shot Sub MOA guarantee. It didn't shoot anywhere close to that. It was a very inconsistant 1.5 - 3 MOA shooter and 3 MOA @ 300 yds = 9". I sent it back to Beretta twice and twice they sent it back saying there was nothing wrong with it. Good luck getting any of the large gun makers to stand behind their product. Not gonna happen, not for accuracy. I was actually looking at Cooper the same time I bought the Sako. Should have bought the Copper. I would have been a very happy man. I have a couple of build projects now using Vanguard action doners. Here's what they're costing me. Doner rifle cost, $200 & $300 @ gun shows Action blue print, $325 ea Broughton Barrels, $350 ea Chamber and crown, $275 ea B&C Medalist full aluminum bedded stock, $270, Manners stock $470 Bedding job $100 ea They will cost $1520 & and $1920 for the basic rifle. I was able to tune both triggers to a crisp 1.5 lbs. I'll be putting Timney 3 position triggers on them only because I want the 3 position feature. I cannot tell the difference between the ones I tuned and a Timney. One of them will also get a brake installed for $200. These rifles should shoot as well any custom and the both of them will cost about the same as full custom build. There was also a good suggestion to look at some of the used rifles for sale on this site. There are some very good deals there. To the OP, I would highly recommend getting a good custom quality rifle (to include a Cooper) if it's in the budget. [/QUOTE]
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