Nikon Monarch 3

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by T Shot, Jul 5, 2013.

  1. T Shot

    T Shot Well-Known Member

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    Have any of you guys messed around with or bought one of the new monarchs yet? i have been considering getting one for a mid range scope, but cant find anyone that carries them yet. I read that the turret system is spring loaded to reset the zero but thats about all i have read as far as difference. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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  2. westcliffe01

    westcliffe01 Well-Known Member

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    Vortex is now too competitive and you will not have to deal with a service center on Manhattan island. I have had several Nikons, but not again. They have really stupid reticle options too.
     

  3. T Shot

    T Shot Well-Known Member

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    I have never used a vortex, nor know anyone that uses them. Are they that much better that I should just forget about the monarch? Which model is comparable to the monarch? I do like that they are 30 mm vs 1 inch
     
  4. westcliffe01

    westcliffe01 Well-Known Member

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    So a present day comparison:
    Nikon Monarch 3 4-16x50 non BDC
    Nikon Monarch 3 Riflescope - 4-16x50, BDC FREE S&H 6775, 6774. Nikon Rifle Scopes.
    $500 Capped turrets duplex style (basic) reticle 1" tube
    (just getting a replacement turret knob for my Monarch 2 was $100 and it is still capped)
    Internal adjustment 50MOA
    Reticle
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    Vortex Viper HS 4-16x50 LR scope with dead hold BDC reticle
    Vortex Optics Viper HS 4-16x50 30mm Long Range Scope FREE S&H VHS-4307-LR, VHS-4313-LR. Vortex Viper Rifle Scopes, Vortex Rifle Scopes.
    $599 ($100 more basically)
    Elevation 75MOA Windage 50MOA
    It has a proper reticle with a scale on the horizontal and vertical axis
    It has an exposed elevation turret for dialing up bullet drop

    Reticle
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    Vortex has about the best warranty service in the business. Can one really compare the 2 scopes above ? The Vortex costs 20% more but is it only 20% more scope ? Just trying to emulate the elevation turret through their "Spot On" system will add more than $100 and wait till you see your "biscuit" turret knob that is hardly 1/4" high....
     
  5. T Shot

    T Shot Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like they are worth more than the 20% cost comparison. How do they perform on a hunting rig? Considering bad weather and rough terrain...
     
  6. westcliffe01

    westcliffe01 Well-Known Member

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    I would not consider mine a delicate scope. I have had my Viper PST FFP 4-16x50 for a year now and have not had any issues. Any time you have exposed turrets you need to reset them properly to zero after you sight in and then check them after taking it out the rifle case. For the scope suggested that would be the elevation turret and the parallax adjustment.

    I take a 4" long strip of duct tape and stick it to the stock on the left side above the trigger. Then I write my dope on that for windage and elevation and then put a strip of clear packing tape on top so it will not smudge.
     
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    T Shot Well-Known Member

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    After some research, it seems that the viper hs is a better scope for the money all the way around, compared to the monarch. Anyone else have anything to add? I have always liked nikon but i have read a ton of negative things about them.
     
  8. westcliffe01

    westcliffe01 Well-Known Member

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    If you go with the "regular" Viper HS with capped elevation and windage turrets and still the "dead hold BDC reticle (superior to anything Nikon has) then one is closer to unity on the price ($550) and still getting a 30mm tube and 50% more internal travel than the Nikon.

    I still think that the exposed turret is well worth the extra $50.
     
  9. lloydsmale

    lloydsmale Well-Known Member

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    Ive got a few monarchs and in there price range there fine scopes that compete with any brand.
     
  10. Sully2

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    Is this is the only reticle available for any brand of scope...
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    Id sight down the barrel like a shotgun and fire away.
     
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    Sully2 Well-Known Member

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    I only have one...a 4 x 14 on a walking varminter....and it does fine