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<blockquote data-quote="Buffalobob" data-source="post: 269069" data-attributes="member: 8"><p>Unless it is the wrong power or objective lens, there is nothing wrong with the VX3s. They are used successfully every weekend in long range competition. And every year when hunting season rolls around the Luepolds will at the top of the list in killing animals at and beyond 1K. No other scope on your list except the Nightforce comes close to killing the amount of animals at long range. So if actually killing animals is important to you then Luepold should be on your list.</p><p></p><p>Evaluating optics depends on you and how you evaluate the world. When I decided to buy a pair of binoculars I made a post and asked a question. Of the people who replied I looked at who actually used binoculars and what were their results in the field finding animals. The people I relied on were Mechele, Goodgrouper, Uncle B, and a customer of Shawn Carlocks who had just killed a deer at a range of 1300+ yards. When I looked for a spotting scope I evaluated advice based upon the track record of the people giving the advice.</p><p></p><p>The internet is like real life except worse. People like to run their mouth and give advice and real experience and real knowledge is no obstacle. Oftentimes neither is honesty. While at times we are all wrong and will make mistakes there are simply people who are wrong more often than they are right. If you go down to the poll of "What is your Longest shot" you will see that less than 10% of the forum members have ever killed a big game animal at a range beyond 800 yards. On the other hand there are forum members who do it every year or at least regularly. That should tell you something. One of the great reasons to go up to Pennsylvania for the groundhog shooting is that Kevin Cram has some great optics of different types. It is more interesting looking at his optics than shooting at ground hogs.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now then, with all that said, a forum member named "Ernie" is going to evaluate some of the scopes on your list. Ernie knows what a scope has to do at long range hunting and he is an honest person. The only thing he will not be able to determine is how a scope is going to do over time in the field such as being dunked in a beaver pond or being rolled down the hill and whacked into a tree. If I was you I would just wait on Ernie.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buffalobob, post: 269069, member: 8"] Unless it is the wrong power or objective lens, there is nothing wrong with the VX3s. They are used successfully every weekend in long range competition. And every year when hunting season rolls around the Luepolds will at the top of the list in killing animals at and beyond 1K. No other scope on your list except the Nightforce comes close to killing the amount of animals at long range. So if actually killing animals is important to you then Luepold should be on your list. Evaluating optics depends on you and how you evaluate the world. When I decided to buy a pair of binoculars I made a post and asked a question. Of the people who replied I looked at who actually used binoculars and what were their results in the field finding animals. The people I relied on were Mechele, Goodgrouper, Uncle B, and a customer of Shawn Carlocks who had just killed a deer at a range of 1300+ yards. When I looked for a spotting scope I evaluated advice based upon the track record of the people giving the advice. The internet is like real life except worse. People like to run their mouth and give advice and real experience and real knowledge is no obstacle. Oftentimes neither is honesty. While at times we are all wrong and will make mistakes there are simply people who are wrong more often than they are right. If you go down to the poll of "What is your Longest shot" you will see that less than 10% of the forum members have ever killed a big game animal at a range beyond 800 yards. On the other hand there are forum members who do it every year or at least regularly. That should tell you something. One of the great reasons to go up to Pennsylvania for the groundhog shooting is that Kevin Cram has some great optics of different types. It is more interesting looking at his optics than shooting at ground hogs. Now then, with all that said, a forum member named "Ernie" is going to evaluate some of the scopes on your list. Ernie knows what a scope has to do at long range hunting and he is an honest person. The only thing he will not be able to determine is how a scope is going to do over time in the field such as being dunked in a beaver pond or being rolled down the hill and whacked into a tree. If I was you I would just wait on Ernie. [/QUOTE]
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