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Nightforce Reticles/MOA vs. Mil
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<blockquote data-quote="Scot E" data-source="post: 742699" data-attributes="member: 10832"><p>The velocity reticles are a great idea in theory, if used correctly with the proper load. Have you been on NF's velocity calculator page? If not you need to use it a bit as it will help you understand. </p><p></p><p>You can put in all of the load and atmospheric info and it will tell you where your reticle subtentions are going to put you. Atmospheric conditions have little to no effect on POI out to 5-600 yards on most loads so in my mind that is the max distance that the velocity reticle is fully functional. I have played with the calculator though quite a bit and there are many loads where the velocity 1000 is the only reticle that will work for a flat shooting load. I assume your situation would be the same. So if you go that route it isn't a horrible thing to get the 1000 reticle, so you can get the correct subtentions for your load, then only use it for holdover out to 5-600 yards. You can then dial in and use the main crosshairs for any farther shooting. </p><p></p><p>Unless I am really sure that the scope is going to stay on 1 gun with 1 load I would personally be more comfortable with a fixed stadia reticle like the NPR1, MOAR, or MLR2, etc. Then you can have your drops listed in MOA or MIL (depending on what you choose to go with) and then find the corresponding stadia line to hold for and fire in a very similar way that the velocity reticle allows you to do. But with this system you can change loads or guns and still be sure to have a usable reticle. </p><p></p><p>With the way we hunt and shoot today the math involved in MOA or MIL is almost not worth talking about for most shooters anymore. Try to make your decision based on them both being angular measurements and not linear measurements which gets most all the math part out of the equation. This is especially true if you are going to buy a fixed stadia reticle as you can do all of your measuring with the reticle so the math is seldom needed. I personally would be more likely to make my choice based on reticle design, and how far I am going to be shooting than what math I find easier to do. That is just me though. I personally like the 1/2 MIL reticles as I feel they give a good balance of useability without excess clutter. Lots of options to choose from nowadays!</p><p></p><p>Good Luck in finding the perfect setup that works for YOU. Everyone has an opinion on MIL vs MOA, just make sure you learn as much as you can then make a decision that works for YOUR style of shooting. </p><p></p><p>Scot E.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scot E, post: 742699, member: 10832"] The velocity reticles are a great idea in theory, if used correctly with the proper load. Have you been on NF's velocity calculator page? If not you need to use it a bit as it will help you understand. You can put in all of the load and atmospheric info and it will tell you where your reticle subtentions are going to put you. Atmospheric conditions have little to no effect on POI out to 5-600 yards on most loads so in my mind that is the max distance that the velocity reticle is fully functional. I have played with the calculator though quite a bit and there are many loads where the velocity 1000 is the only reticle that will work for a flat shooting load. I assume your situation would be the same. So if you go that route it isn't a horrible thing to get the 1000 reticle, so you can get the correct subtentions for your load, then only use it for holdover out to 5-600 yards. You can then dial in and use the main crosshairs for any farther shooting. Unless I am really sure that the scope is going to stay on 1 gun with 1 load I would personally be more comfortable with a fixed stadia reticle like the NPR1, MOAR, or MLR2, etc. Then you can have your drops listed in MOA or MIL (depending on what you choose to go with) and then find the corresponding stadia line to hold for and fire in a very similar way that the velocity reticle allows you to do. But with this system you can change loads or guns and still be sure to have a usable reticle. With the way we hunt and shoot today the math involved in MOA or MIL is almost not worth talking about for most shooters anymore. Try to make your decision based on them both being angular measurements and not linear measurements which gets most all the math part out of the equation. This is especially true if you are going to buy a fixed stadia reticle as you can do all of your measuring with the reticle so the math is seldom needed. I personally would be more likely to make my choice based on reticle design, and how far I am going to be shooting than what math I find easier to do. That is just me though. I personally like the 1/2 MIL reticles as I feel they give a good balance of useability without excess clutter. Lots of options to choose from nowadays! Good Luck in finding the perfect setup that works for YOU. Everyone has an opinion on MIL vs MOA, just make sure you learn as much as you can then make a decision that works for YOUR style of shooting. Scot E. [/QUOTE]
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